Man, you just get darker and darker, and the weird thing is, your aura? Beige.

Host ,'Why We Fight'


Boxed Set, Vol. VI: I am not a number, I am a free thread!

A topic for the discussion of Doctor Who, Arrow, and The Flash. Beware possible invasions of iZombie, Sleepy Hollow, or pretty much any other "genre" (read: sci fi, superhero, or fantasy) show that captures our fancy. Expect adult content and discussion of the Big Gay Sex.

Marvel superheroes are discussed over at the MCU thread.

Whitefont all unaired in the U.S. ep discussion, identifying it as such, and including the show and ep title in blackfont.

Blackfont is allowed after the show has aired on the east coast.

This is NOT a general TV discussion thread.


Jessica - Sep 28, 2021 8:30:25 am PDT #1824 of 2006
If I want to become a cloud of bats, does each bat need a separate vaccination?

Russell T. Davies Will Return to Doctor Who After 12 Years

I'm looking forward to this if only because the Chibnall era has been so painfully bad. I wish Whittaker were sticking around for it, her Doctor deserved much better writing than she got.


JenP - Sep 28, 2021 3:43:55 pm PDT #1825 of 2006

Babylon 5 is one of my faves. I love Londo and G'Kar - the way the relationship between them and their worlds twists and turns over the series. They're not the leads, of course, but they are the way secondary characters should be done. History, personality, serious character flaws. Well worth watching.

I am 100% bennett in this. I LOVED the original. Man, it's been years. I should reewatch it. I'm fine with a remake. Especicially interesting wit JMS at the helm. I'd be in.


Consuela - Sep 28, 2021 7:44:52 pm PDT #1826 of 2006
We are Buffistas. This isn't our first apocalypse. -- Pix

I loved/hated B5. JMS can plot like nobody's business, but so much of the dialog was On. The. Nose., it was terribly predictable. And the cast was great: Mira Furlan, Andreas Katsulas -- and also not so great, like Jerry Doyle and Bruce Boxleitner. And even Claudia Christian I didn't think was awesome, although she did ok.

But it was the first SF show that really committed to a multi-season arc and pulled it off, despite network interference and unexpected cast changes. Of course the way they did it was JMS wrote nearly every episode, which almost killed him.

So color me intrigued, but mildly skeptical. Here's hoping they can cast really good actors for all the parts instead of just the non-humans.


Matt the Bruins fan - Sep 28, 2021 8:00:26 pm PDT #1827 of 2006
"You should never say bad things about the dead, only good… Joan Crawford is dead. Good.” —Bette Davis

I thought Claudia Christian was awesome, and I really liked Michael O'Hare as Sinclair in the first season. Though Boxleitner always struck me as a lightweight in his role, and Doyle belonged in some film noir as a stock private eye.


Toddson - Sep 29, 2021 7:56:50 am PDT #1828 of 2006
Friends don't let friends read "Atlas Shrugged"

My favorite character was Vir.


bennett - Sep 29, 2021 8:33:31 am PDT #1829 of 2006

Vir, and his character arc, was great. I'm glad he got to be happy.

I liked Sheridan/Sinclair and Delenn during my first viewing, but it was the secondary characters that I fell in love with during re-watches.

My primary concern about a remake is that the CW's audience skews so young. I don't know how well the network will handle grown-up story lines.

I'm also, personally, much less optimistic (in general) than I was back in the day. While I love the idea of the Earth Alliance building and re-building the Babylon station and the way Sheridan crafts the new alliance in the last 2 seasons, I'm too cynical now to think it would actually work. I will be interested to see how JMS' views of interworld politics has changed over time.


Toddson - Sep 29, 2021 10:26:33 am PDT #1830 of 2006
Friends don't let friends read "Atlas Shrugged"

I did love the moment in the first Boxleitner episode when he asks after Delenn and is told she's in a cocoon ... "about so high".


Matt the Bruins fan - Sep 29, 2021 6:12:18 pm PDT #1831 of 2006
"You should never say bad things about the dead, only good… Joan Crawford is dead. Good.” —Bette Davis

I will be interested to see how JMS' views of interworld politics has changed over time.

Oh God, there's going to be a Space Trump, isn't there?


-t - Sep 29, 2021 6:15:43 pm PDT #1832 of 2006
I am a woman of various inclinations and only some of the time are they to burn everything down in frustration

Oh, no, please not that.

I mean, I suppose it might be possible to do in a thought-provoking and not stab-my-eyeballs way but Do Not Want


Consuela - Sep 29, 2021 10:32:58 pm PDT #1833 of 2006
We are Buffistas. This isn't our first apocalypse. -- Pix

yikes