Well that was some white savior bullshit.
Not cool, Chibnall.
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Well that was some white savior bullshit.
Not cool, Chibnall.
Ugh, people on Twitter are falling over themselves with love for this ep and I think maybe they just found out about racism?
There's supposed to be a new season for Legends of Tomorrow starting tonight, fyi.
Jessica, I have not watched this ep for that very reason. I suspected that it would be offensive to Americans generally, and POC specifically. When it started out with the bus driver carrying a gun I knew that they did not understand and it would be completely over the top.
Any general plot points I should know about?
The episode made me deeply uncomfortable.
I forgot Legends of Tomorrow started today I'll have to watch it tomorrow if it's on CW app tomorrow. Tonight is The Voice and I don't want to flip between them and I don't think I can get Mom even partly caught up on Legends.
Any general plot points I should know about?
Not anything that will be relevant later in the season, I don't think.
On top of the iffy race/American history stuff, this just wasn't a very good episode, period. Chibnall's crime drama roots are showing, and it's a bad fit for The Doctor. The focus on researching minute factual details was very CSI-esque.
"Doctor Who and the Bedsheets of Death"
Every time I struggle with fitted sheets.
Not anything that will be relevant later in the season, I don't think.
You don't think the character trying to mess with history will be back in some form?
I'm mindful of being a white guy from a completely other country, but I have so many undigested thoughts and feelings about this.
I was deeply sceptical of this ep coming in. Chris Chibnall is the guy who gave us a villainous Jewish stereotype named Solomon in Dinosaurs on a Spaceship, after all. In the end, I was... pleasantly surprised, I think. I mean, I'm still not convinced that Doctor Who should even try a story like this. But it exceeded my expectations in a number of ways. (I assume that Malorie Blackman had rather more to do with the writing than Chris Chibnall did himself.)
On that note, I watched this with Ryan, during which we had the following conversation:
"Oh, Rosa Parks! I know about her! She was one of the women in the book from the library, Sheep Assisted!"
"...Oh, that's -- wait, which book? Sheep Assisted?"
"Yes, that book about the American women."
"About the -- Oh! You mean She Persisted!"
"That's what I said."
So on to some of the problematic stuff.
That last point especially makes me sceptical that Doctor Who should even try something like this. A lot of these points are structural. (Not that DW can't handle social issues. Eps like The Mutants, Turn Left and Oxygen - and the DW-adjacent Torchwood: Children of Earth, are just savage. But historical race relations... Under Chibnall's care...) I don't know. There's something to be said for giving children a way into learning more about such periods. But still sceptical.