I can beat up demons until the cows come home, and then I can beat up the cows.

Buffy ,'Dirty Girls'


Natter 75: More Than a Million Natters Served  

Off-topic discussion. Wanna talk about corsets, duct tape, butt kicking, or physics? This is the place. Detailed discussion of any current-season TV must be whitefonted.


Steph L. - Nov 04, 2016 6:50:15 am PDT #811 of 30002
the hardest to learn / was the least complicated

I watching (via twitter) the trial of a police officer accused of murder for killing an unarmed black man in a traffic stop in my city last summer (DuBose/Tensing) and it's hurting my heart.

All I can do is check the headlines, because the details are too awful.


Zenkitty - Nov 04, 2016 7:07:04 am PDT #812 of 30002
Every now and then, I think I might actually be a little odd.

538 is being very conservative in their predictions, according to another site I read somewhere yesterday. But she's still winning. This morning her downturn started to move up again. FL, NC, and NV have slid over into blue again, and she doesn't even need them if she gets NH, VA and PA, then she's won with 271. 272 if she gets one of Maine's district votes, which she will. Also, from what I'm reading, the polls are all underestimating the force of the Black and Latinx vote in FL, TX, and NC. I still don't think she'll turn Texas blue, though.

But I won't relax until it's over.


Dana - Nov 04, 2016 7:16:44 am PDT #813 of 30002
"I'm useless alone." // "We're all useless alone. It's a good thing you're not alone."

Yeah, I have a hard time believing Texas is in play.


Steph L. - Nov 04, 2016 7:21:25 am PDT #814 of 30002
the hardest to learn / was the least complicated

But I won't relax until it's over.

Four days to go. I won't relax until the networks call it. (Because even if Trump is stupid enough to attempt a legal challenge, it won't go anywhere -- there are, after all, minimum criteria to meet in order to challenge election results, and so far his objection is "I don't like it that I'm losing" -- and this won't turn into a debacle like 2000.)

We always have dinner with a group of friends on the second Tuesday of the month, and I told Tim I'd still go (even though I want to be home watching the returns) as long as everyone understands I will be GLUED to my phone. (Dinner is from 7 to 9 at the very latest, and I know the networks won't call anything before 11:00, but still. I livestreamed the roll-call vote at the DNC; you can damn bet I want to watch the returns on this one.)


Matt the Bruins fan - Nov 04, 2016 7:25:25 am PDT #815 of 30002
"I remember when they eventually introduced that drug kingpin who murdered people and smuggled drugs inside snakes and I was like 'Finally. A normal person.'” —RahvinDragand

Wouldn't a challenge to the election have to be based on specific evidence of voting irregularities in a given state, and require the vote to be close enough that the results would change based on those specific votes being thrown out? I'm pretty sure the roving packs of Mexican illegals fraudulently voting in Trump's imagination wouldn't leave any actual evidence.


Steph L. - Nov 04, 2016 7:26:09 am PDT #816 of 30002
the hardest to learn / was the least complicated

Wouldn't a challenge to the election have to be based on specific evidence of voting irregularities in a given state, and require the vote to be close enough that the results would change based on those specific votes being thrown out? I'm pretty sure the roving packs of Mexican illegals fraudulently voting in Trump's imagination wouldn't leave any actual evidence.

Yeah, that's exactly what I mean when I say "even if Trump is stupid enough to attempt a legal challenge, it won't go anywhere."


tommyrot - Nov 04, 2016 7:28:04 am PDT #817 of 30002
Sir, it's not an offence to let your cat eat your bacon. Okay? And we don't arrest cats, I'm very sorry.

My dentist told me people were lining up at 5:00 this morning to see the Cubs parade. And the cafe across the street from me was sold out of bagels and croissants. They said a bunch of families were in earlier while on their way to the train station to see the parade.

Freakiest thing 538 has said recently: When the Cubs were down 3-1 in the World Series, 538 said that Trump had a better chance of winning than the Cubs had for winning the World Series.


Jessica - Nov 04, 2016 7:28:46 am PDT #818 of 30002
If I want to become a cloud of bats, does each bat need a separate vaccination?

Yeah, that's exactly what I mean when I say "even if Trump is stupid enough to attempt a legal challenge, it won't go anywhere."

I really hope he doesn't. Even if it's guaranteed to fail, the precedent that would set is horrible to think about.


Steph L. - Nov 04, 2016 7:29:22 am PDT #819 of 30002
the hardest to learn / was the least complicated

My dentist told me people were lining up at 5:00 this morning to see the Cubs parade.

In her email, my coordinator told me "I made about 30 new best friends on public transportation this morning!"


msbelle - Nov 04, 2016 7:37:28 am PDT #820 of 30002
I remember the crazy days. 500 posts an hour. Nubmer! Natgbsb

My dad is having surgery on his neck on Tuesday. I may be watching results from a hospital room.

This surgery is going to be a bear. He is 72. This is neck surgery #2. They are cutting bones and attaching 2 rods and also having to cut some muscle. He will be in a lot of pain they are telling him. He will be in a collar with limited mobility for 2-3 months and he can't drive that whole time.