I hope you don't think that I just come over for the spells and everything. I mean, I really like just talking and hanging out with you and stuff.

Willow ,'First Date'


Natter 75: More Than a Million Natters Served  

Off-topic discussion. Wanna talk about corsets, duct tape, butt kicking, or physics? This is the place. Detailed discussion of any current-season TV must be whitefonted.


Gudanov - Jan 30, 2017 2:55:29 am PST #6388 of 30002
Coding and Sleeping

So when the executive branch refuses to abide by checks and balances from the judicial branch what then?

Then nothing. See Andrew Jackson.


Sophia Brooks - Jan 30, 2017 3:07:07 am PST #6389 of 30002
Cats to become a rabbit should gather immediately now here

OK- I will admit I just don't want to do an investigation. People keep saying this is just Trump enforcing an order that Obama had already on the books. That is BS, right?


Laura - Jan 30, 2017 3:08:35 am PST #6390 of 30002
Our wings are not tired.

We work regularly with H1 Visa holders. One of our programmers last night was saying that he and a number of his friends are talking seriously about opportunities in Canada. It is colder in Canada than Florida, but living in fear is a chilling experience too.

I am on a more hopeful swing at the moment. There is real resistance from many directions, not just the snowflakes. Republicans, CEOs, and world leaders are pushing back. Maybe dysfunction will keep him from achieving his goals?


Laura - Jan 30, 2017 3:11:13 am PST #6391 of 30002
Our wings are not tired.

Sophia, WaPo addressed that this morning although I didn't read the whole article yet the short answer is yes, BS. [link]


Tom Scola - Jan 30, 2017 4:17:54 am PST #6392 of 30002
Remember that the frontier of the Rebellion is everywhere. And even the smallest act of insurrection pushes our lines forward.

Sorry, Mr. President: The Obama Administration Did Nothing Similar to Your Immigration Ban


Anne W. - Jan 30, 2017 4:21:52 am PST #6393 of 30002
The lost sheep grow teeth, forsake their lambs, and lie with the lions.

The Koch brothers of all people are taking Trump to task over the immigration ban.


Jesse - Jan 30, 2017 4:23:21 am PST #6394 of 30002
Sometimes I trip on how happy we could be.

I do think it's got to help that this is immediately affecting academics, doctors, other "elites."


Sparky1 - Jan 30, 2017 4:42:08 am PST #6395 of 30002
Librarian Warlord

So much awful. Here's a site from a librarian at UW (who a couple of us know well) that is collecting documents/readings, etc., on presidential power: [link]


Consuela - Jan 30, 2017 5:24:16 am PST #6396 of 30002
We are Buffistas. This isn't our first apocalypse. -- Pix

All of Homeland Security can't be batshit crazy.

Ahem.

I suspect that the confusion comes from the fact there was no coordination, and it was implemented late Friday, so the people who provide guidance weren't available. And, of course, there are assholes in CBP, and in the WH.

But I have no idea what's going to happen next.

Hard to drag myself out of bed this morning: I may have to get a sunshine lamp just to get me through to spring...


Dana - Jan 30, 2017 5:25:17 am PST #6397 of 30002
I'm terrifically busy with my ennui.

I cannot possibly believe that calling Ted Cruz and John Cornyn will do anything, but I guess I have to try.