Niska: Mr. Reynolds? You died, Mr. Reynolds. Mal: Seemed like the thing to do.

'War Stories'


Natter 75: More Than a Million Natters Served  

Off-topic discussion. Wanna talk about corsets, duct tape, butt kicking, or physics? This is the place. Detailed discussion of any current-season TV must be whitefonted.


shrift - Jan 29, 2017 9:58:22 am PST #6365 of 30002
"You can't put a price on the joy of not giving a shit." -Zenkitty

TENNIS.

MUPPET ARMS.


DavidS - Jan 29, 2017 10:46:08 am PST #6366 of 30002
"Look, son, if it's good enough for Shirley Bassey, it's good enough for you."

Fuck. I'm seeing instances of the Dept. of Homeland Security not complying with the Federal judge orders to stay the immigration ban.

Which is to say...they are not following the rule of law and answering only to the Executive.

I didn't think we'd have a civil war or military coup before February.


brenda m - Jan 29, 2017 10:58:00 am PST #6367 of 30002
If you're going through hell/keep on going/don't slow down/keep your fear from showing/you might be gone/'fore the devil even knows you're there

That is the scariest part of this. The courts are only a bulwark (for now) if their rulings are respected by agencies. That changes and it's a free for all.


Kate P. - Jan 29, 2017 11:11:57 am PST #6368 of 30002
That's the pain / That cuts a straight line down through the heart / We call it love

So, I mean, what's the next step? If the DHS doesn't abide by the court's decision, who enforces that? Who should we be putting pressure on now?


brenda m - Jan 29, 2017 11:53:05 am PST #6369 of 30002
If you're going through hell/keep on going/don't slow down/keep your fear from showing/you might be gone/'fore the devil even knows you're there

"John Marshall has made his decision, now let him enforce it."


meara - Jan 29, 2017 12:29:44 pm PST #6370 of 30002

Not to mention that he can start appointing people to the courts. So soon....


Dana - Jan 29, 2017 12:44:04 pm PST #6371 of 30002
I'm terrifically busy with my ennui.

I'm tempted to just make a sockpuppet Twitter account and correct assholes' grammar. I know it would accomplish nothing, but it's something I can do! And it would make me feel better.


-t - Jan 29, 2017 1:49:39 pm PST #6372 of 30002
I am a woman of various inclinations and only some of the time are they to burn everything down in frustration

I can't seem to wear colors anymore, and I actually bought a whole bunch of black clothes, because everytime I go to put on one of my colorful joyful dresses, I just can't.

Very Wishverse. I am wearing more greys and blacks myself, although some days I actively choose to dress optimistically


-t - Jan 29, 2017 1:51:56 pm PST #6373 of 30002
I am a woman of various inclinations and only some of the time are they to burn everything down in frustration

So, I mean, what's the next step? If the DHS doesn't abide by the court's decision, who enforces that?

Can the whole administration be impeached? Checks and balances gotta happen somehow. Right?


DavidS - Jan 29, 2017 2:49:34 pm PST #6374 of 30002
"Look, son, if it's good enough for Shirley Bassey, it's good enough for you."

So, I mean, what's the next step? If the DHS doesn't abide by the court's decision, who enforces that?

US Marshalls enforce Federal Judicial orders. I don't think we want to see an armed stand off between US Marshalls and Dept. of Homeland Security officers.

But I think mostly, Trump's order was so ill written, and poorly conceived, and uncommunicated that it has caused complete chaos as to what various agencies should do.

So, Bannon, is basically Wormtonguing away at Trump and pushed this order out. And Bannon - who avowedly wants to destroy the entire government - is probably enjoying the chaos.