One of you is gonna fall and die, and I'm not cleaning it up!

Mal ,'War Stories'


Natter 75: More Than a Million Natters Served  

Off-topic discussion. Wanna talk about corsets, duct tape, butt kicking, or physics? This is the place. Detailed discussion of any current-season TV must be whitefonted.


Connie Neil - Jan 26, 2017 9:00:13 am PST #6193 of 30002
brillig

Blatant crazy tends to taint everyone around it. If the GOP wants to keep their seats, they're going to have to make it look like they're not abetting the crazy. They can frame it as "We saved you from the Bad Man!"


msbelle - Jan 26, 2017 9:57:57 am PST #6194 of 30002
I remember the crazy days. 500 posts an hour. Nubmer! Natgbsb

I have been very loose with money for about 6 months. That has got to change. I am focusing on paying down my debt and about starting to pull out cash and build up a little supply in the house in case of emergencies.

I might also switch my meds to postal ordering so I can get 3 months at a time in case there is a push back on coverage. I am getting all possible medical appts done asap. Of course my body is in full revolt at the moment, so that is not helping.


Calli - Jan 26, 2017 10:14:49 am PST #6195 of 30002
I must obey the inscrutable exhortations of my soul—Calvin and Hobbs

I know that we're hearing stories about repentant Trump voters, but I'm wondering how much his support is eroding with his base--if it is at all. People who voted because they think a Muslim registry is a great idea, who think cities are all gang-infested slums, who think they're poor because those immigrants are coming over the border and taking their jobs and having babies on welfare--I would assume they're hearing about Trump's actions and cheering. State Department leadership resigning en masse? Fewer federal bureaucrats living high on their tax dollars. Scientists not allowed to talk about climate change? Why should we pay them to spout Chinese propaganda and drive up gas prices?

Basically, I think that die hard Trump voters live in a bubble that won't be permeated by reality until their parents' SS checks stop coming and the factories that Trump brings back to the US (if any) refuse to hire them because prison labor and robots are cheaper.


Connie Neil - Jan 26, 2017 10:24:56 am PST #6196 of 30002
brillig

True believers will not be converted. I'm hoping the ones who shrugged and said "There's no real difference between them" or "He's just saying stuff, he's not going to do it" are rethinking things.


Dana - Jan 26, 2017 10:25:28 am PST #6197 of 30002
I'm terrifically busy with my ennui.

Well, Medicare and Medicaid cuts should start sinking in at some point.

I feel like we should have a betting pool as to what will happen next with Trump. We've had "Pushes through executive orders to give Republicans a stiffy" and "yells at media for being mean" and "ridiculous and incorrect anecdote that justifies voter surpression."

I'd lay some money on "Trump starts firing people out of pique."


Steph L. - Jan 26, 2017 10:25:47 am PST #6198 of 30002
this mess was yours / now your mess is mine

I'm hoping the ones who shrugged and said "There's no real difference between them" or "He's just saying stuff, he's not going to do it" are rethinking things.

Fuck them. They got us here. I'm voting them off the island. Fuck 'em all.


brenda m - Jan 26, 2017 10:47:35 am PST #6199 of 30002
If you're going through hell/keep on going/don't slow down/keep your fear from showing/you might be gone/'fore the devil even knows you're there

Those are the ones I most want to punch.

The only thing that will make any difference is if the Republicans in the House and Senate take a stand. Some of them might be influenced by their constituents, many not at all.

I read recently that in terms of calls to Reps, Republican callers are generally about 4 - 1 v Dems, 11 - 1 if it's an issue the right cares about. This is part of why they've developed the knee-jerk instinct to jump right at every opportunity. (Some are true believers, others maybe weren't from the get go and now are.)

This is just one part of the issue, but it's one we can potentially impact.


amych - Jan 26, 2017 10:58:56 am PST #6200 of 30002
Now let us crush something soft and watch it fountain blood. That is a girlish thing to want to do, yes?

I'd lay some money on "Trump starts firing people out of pique."

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Dana - Jan 26, 2017 11:02:13 am PST #6201 of 30002
I'm terrifically busy with my ennui.

I was thinking more of his advisors/wranglers. But sure! Who needs experience in the State Department?


Steph L. - Jan 26, 2017 11:05:12 am PST #6202 of 30002
this mess was yours / now your mess is mine

Also the US Chief of Border Patrol. He was in the same situation where he "resigned" in a way that is code for "was forced out."

I am currently the embodiment of the This Is Fine dog.