I literally spent 20 minutes on the treadmill and came back to the news that Mary Tyler Moore died.

I literally spent 20 minutes on the treadmill and came back to the news that Mary Tyler Moore died.

What?! Shit.

And he pointed out that there are those who felt they had no choice and now regret it but feel that if they say anything they'll get vilified by Trump supporters and by liberals.

I don't know about this, therapist dude. Making a terrible choice that will hurt far more people than it will help and regretting it, but not wanting to say anything because people might be mean to you about that bad thing you did? Still a fucking choice. They weren't forced to do that against their will.

I would respond to your therapist that those people need to accept consequences of their actions and get comfortable with feeling uncomfortable.

WeLloyd my therapist does have to see both sides. And gave compassion for all his clients.

I don't have to.

I literally spent 20 minutes on the treadmill and came back to the news that Mary Tyler Moore died.

What?! Shit.

Oh, for fuck's sake. I saw earlier that she was hospitalized, and then I did some work, and now she's dead? Good god, 2017. Cut the bullshit.

We do not need to learn how to grieve 2017. 2016 took care of that.

my therapist does have to see both sides. And gave compassion for all his clients.

I disagree. He has to focus on the patient in front of him, and not discount their feelings at the expense of other patients. Unless you're telling your therapist that you're out hunting down Trump supporters to punch, then when you tell your therapist your feelings, then the two of you talk about YOUR feelings, not the hypothetical feelings of another hypothetical patient.

I'm a bit tetchy about this, because I'm pretty sure tomorrow morning's therapy session is going to be about my overwhelm at the tsunami of Trumpian bullshit, and I'd probably blow a gasket if she told me to think about the hypothetical feelings of a hypothetical Trump voter.

my therapist does have to see both sides. And gave compassion for all his clients.

Very true. I mean, a therapist would probably talk about how those clients should try to forgive themselves, whereas I just want to shove their noses in dog shit so they remember not to do this again next time.

Edit: Also, what Steph said.

I did check to see what the ten year prizes were just for kicks. Nothing exciting.

Jesse, flatware is totally something I've been thinking about! I have a set that I got from my mom many years ago, that's fairly decent but doesn't have quite enough forks? Plus I have a bunch of random ones that ended up there through roommates or the time I decided to buy like ten super cheap forks so I'd quit running out. But I am picky about what I want, so don't think the particular choice in the website is one I want. I may go with a random crystal bowl? Because then I could put shit in it?

Yeah, he can feel it if he wants to, but fuck, it's not his place to make their case. Unless he was talking about himself, in which case, still not his place and he can go fuck himself.

I don't know about this, therapist dude. Making a terrible choice that will hurt far more people than it will help and regretting it, but not wanting to say anything because people might be mean to you about that bad thing you did? Still a fucking choice. They weren't forced to do that against their will.

RIGHT?

I do feel like encouraging people who voted for Trump but now feel like that is a mistake that it's not too late to do right. It's not about forgiveness, more not letting the past rule the present.