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'Serenity'


Natter 75: More Than a Million Natters Served  

Off-topic discussion. Wanna talk about corsets, duct tape, butt kicking, or physics? This is the place. Detailed discussion of any current-season TV must be whitefonted.


Steph L. - Jan 25, 2017 10:16:07 am PST #6137 of 30002
this mess was yours / now your mess is mine

my therapist does have to see both sides. And gave compassion for all his clients.

I disagree. He has to focus on the patient in front of him, and not discount their feelings at the expense of other patients. Unless you're telling your therapist that you're out hunting down Trump supporters to punch, then when you tell your therapist your feelings, then the two of you talk about YOUR feelings, not the hypothetical feelings of another hypothetical patient.

I'm a bit tetchy about this, because I'm pretty sure tomorrow morning's therapy session is going to be about my overwhelm at the tsunami of Trumpian bullshit, and I'd probably blow a gasket if she told me to think about the hypothetical feelings of a hypothetical Trump voter.


shrift - Jan 25, 2017 10:18:15 am PST #6138 of 30002
"You can't put a price on the joy of not giving a shit." -Zenkitty

my therapist does have to see both sides. And gave compassion for all his clients.

Very true. I mean, a therapist would probably talk about how those clients should try to forgive themselves, whereas I just want to shove their noses in dog shit so they remember not to do this again next time.

Edit: Also, what Steph said.


meara - Jan 25, 2017 10:30:20 am PST #6139 of 30002

I did check to see what the ten year prizes were just for kicks. Nothing exciting.

Jesse, flatware is totally something I've been thinking about! I have a set that I got from my mom many years ago, that's fairly decent but doesn't have quite enough forks? Plus I have a bunch of random ones that ended up there through roommates or the time I decided to buy like ten super cheap forks so I'd quit running out. But I am picky about what I want, so don't think the particular choice in the website is one I want. I may go with a random crystal bowl? Because then I could put shit in it?


P.M. Marc - Jan 25, 2017 10:39:35 am PST #6140 of 30002
So come, my friends, be not afraid/We are so lightly here/It is in love that we are made; In love we disappear

Yeah, he can feel it if he wants to, but fuck, it's not his place to make their case. Unless he was talking about himself, in which case, still not his place and he can go fuck himself.

I don't know about this, therapist dude. Making a terrible choice that will hurt far more people than it will help and regretting it, but not wanting to say anything because people might be mean to you about that bad thing you did? Still a fucking choice. They weren't forced to do that against their will.

RIGHT?


-t - Jan 25, 2017 10:51:41 am PST #6141 of 30002
I am a woman of various inclinations and only some of the time are they to burn everything down in frustration

I do feel like encouraging people who voted for Trump but now feel like that is a mistake that it's not too late to do right. It's not about forgiveness, more not letting the past rule the present.


Gudanov - Jan 25, 2017 11:00:00 am PST #6142 of 30002
Coding and Sleeping

One thing to keep in mind is that a lot of Trump voters were duped. They saw the election as between a brilliant but flawed businessman and a criminal who put keeping her secrets before national security rather than an insane and flawed grifter and a mainstream Democrat who just wants to carry one phone.


askye - Jan 25, 2017 11:04:11 am PST #6143 of 30002
Thrive to spite them

I don't want to this to trunk into a debate about Trump regret voters.

My therapist wasnt marginalizing my feelings and I never felt like that. And it's kind of his job to challenge me on certain things.


Steph L. - Jan 25, 2017 11:57:32 am PST #6144 of 30002
this mess was yours / now your mess is mine

Unexpected amusement of the day: I had to look up what "AMPA" stands for (it's a brain receptor dealie), but it ALSO stands for "American Mini Pig Association."

I really wish my article were about the latter instead of the former.


brenda m - Jan 25, 2017 12:10:49 pm PST #6145 of 30002
If you're going through hell/keep on going/don't slow down/keep your fear from showing/you might be gone/'fore the devil even knows you're there

felt they had no choice

Since this is straight up bullshit, I have no sympathy.

And duped? No.

Self-duped maybe. But Trump almost unique among radical politicians is exactly who he appears to be. And is doing exactly what he said he would. On the few points where this isn't true - say, replacing ACA with something EVEN BETTER - it was transparent as hell that he was full of shit. .


brenda m - Jan 25, 2017 12:13:26 pm PST #6146 of 30002
If you're going through hell/keep on going/don't slow down/keep your fear from showing/you might be gone/'fore the devil even knows you're there

I do feel like encouraging people who voted for Trump but now feel like that is a mistake that it's not too late to do right. It's not about forgiveness, more not letting the past rule the present.

It kind of is, though.

I'm not saying they can't do right in the future, or we won't want and need them down the line. But the damage that is being done now won't be fixed for many years, if ever. Nothing that happens in 2018 or 2020 will change that.