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Natter 75: More Than a Million Natters Served  

Off-topic discussion. Wanna talk about corsets, duct tape, butt kicking, or physics? This is the place. Detailed discussion of any current-season TV must be whitefonted.


-t - Jan 09, 2017 3:34:09 pm PST #5233 of 30002
I am a woman of various inclinations and only some of the time are they to burn everything down in frustration

Yup.

One of the things that I retained from some history class or other was that whatever period we were looking at (18th or 19th century Europe, probably) was marked by a transition from people belonging to a community determined mostly by geography and class towards people belonging to societies determined by shared interests and/or goals that might cut across class and span greater geographical areas, and that seems to be even more true today.


-t - Jan 09, 2017 3:35:05 pm PST #5234 of 30002
I am a woman of various inclinations and only some of the time are they to burn everything down in frustration

That's interesting, msbelle.

ETA: I should read Bowling Alone, I think it might help me solidify some of my ideas about this stuff.


Jesse - Jan 09, 2017 3:38:13 pm PST #5235 of 30002
Sometimes I trip on how happy we could be.

One of the things that I retained from some history class or other was that whatever period we were looking at (18th or 19th century Europe, probably) was marked by a transition from people belonging to a community determined mostly by geography and class towards people belonging to societies determined by shared interests and/or goals that might cut across class and span greater geographical areas, and that seems to be even more true today.

Oh, that's really interesting!

I think Bowling Alone is actually bullshit?


SuziQ - Jan 09, 2017 3:46:24 pm PST #5236 of 30002
Back tattoos of the mother is that you are absolutely right - Ame

Not chili, but a delicious pork stew with beans and corn.

C loves to make chili, but he does it wrong. No beans. No corn. We finally convinced him to try some black beans in the last batch after Kelly and I basically said that we would eat what he had made but it was NOT chili. He has decided that black beans are ok, so next up we work on corn.


-t - Jan 09, 2017 3:56:37 pm PST #5237 of 30002
I am a woman of various inclinations and only some of the time are they to burn everything down in frustration

I think Bowling Alone is actually bullshit?

Maybe? Seems like it should be part of my literature survey if I'm going to develop my thesis, anyway.

Your definition of chili is strange to me, Suzi. I don't object to beans and/or corn as ingredients, but to require them seems odd.


Steph L. - Jan 09, 2017 3:59:15 pm PST #5238 of 30002
I look more rad than Lutheranism

I didn't realize until I was in my 30s that chili without beans was a thing (my chili is very very beany). And while I love corn, I don't think I can support corn in chili.


sarameg - Jan 09, 2017 4:06:40 pm PST #5239 of 30002

I'm from NM, I just throw up my hands at pretty much the rest of the US. Chili is a powder, chile is veg and a non-tomato based stew (which can have beans, not kidney, corn and hominy but MUST contain actual chile peppers) and the rest of that stuff is an imposter Texan spicy meat sauce.

And skyline is just another thing entirely.


msbelle - Jan 09, 2017 4:09:14 pm PST #5240 of 30002
I remember the crazy days. 500 posts an hour. Nubmer! Natgbsb

yeah Texans (not me, mind you) often will say chili does NOT have beans.


Jesse - Jan 09, 2017 4:12:18 pm PST #5241 of 30002
Sometimes I trip on how happy we could be.

I'm totally on board with the chili-no-beans crowd. It's not what I make, but I'll take it as The Definition.


meara - Jan 09, 2017 4:13:37 pm PST #5242 of 30002

Wait, Steph, you lived in Cincinnati and didn't believe in bean-less chili?

...now I want chili. With meat AND beans. Because yum. Also with cheese and maybe sour cream. Potentially cornbread.