I just think it's rather odd that a nation that prides itself on its virility should feel compelled to strap on forty pounds of protective gear just in order to play rugby.

Giles ,'Beneath You'


Natter 75: More Than a Million Natters Served  

Off-topic discussion. Wanna talk about corsets, duct tape, butt kicking, or physics? This is the place. Detailed discussion of any current-season TV must be whitefonted.


Zenkitty - Sep 26, 2018 10:04:08 am PDT #29960 of 30002
Every now and then, I think I might actually be a little odd.

Sophia, I had a similar experience of high school. Boys my age were not interested in me except to make fun of me, but older men were all about letting me know how sexy I was. Lecherous stares, kissy noises (I still can't stand hearing smacky mouth noises), pats on the butt, lots of inappropriate comments. Starting about age 12. I was naive, sheltered, early to sprout "a womanly figure", and not at all interested in sex. Also I thought I was kinda funny-looking, I never thought of myself as pretty. The mens' behavior bewildered me and made me feel icky. Everyone including my mom regarded it all as compliments. I never felt complimented. My mom had my high school senior photo displayed on her desk, and one man told her that I was "the kind of girl that made him wish he wasn't married". She told me this thinking I'd like it. I always wished I had a skinny figure so men wouldn't pay attention to me.


beth b - Sep 26, 2018 10:34:20 am PDT #29961 of 30002
oh joy! Oh Rapture ! I have a brain!

I can think of 3 solid instances of sexual aggression. One was when I was 15 and a friends father. One of the things I know now is that I didn't even have words to describe what happened. Any sex ed I had was - mechanical at best. Recently , the school board in my town voted to take sex ed out of the 4-to 6th grade curriculum. I am so angry - children need words


Zenkitty - Sep 26, 2018 10:45:17 am PDT #29962 of 30002
Every now and then, I think I might actually be a little odd.

You're right, beth. It's infuriating. They think they're protecting kids from "bad" things, but they're withholding the means to communicate it if something bad happens to a child.


Toddson - Sep 26, 2018 10:59:17 am PDT #29963 of 30002
Friends don't let friends read "Atlas Shrugged"

I'm older than most of you and grew up in a town that was almost entirely Catholic. Our "sex education" consisted of, basically, "sex is bad - don't do it" (the info about menstruation was so euphemized that when it happened to me - first girl in my class! - I had no idea what was going on). I had one boy who had some kind of thing for me and would come up to me before class and start unbuttoning my blouse (I learned to always button everything up to the top, sometimes using a safety pin to make it harder to unbutton) and when I wore wrap around skirts, to try to untie them and pull them off. My mother never understood why I didn't want to wear the cute skirts.


Zenkitty - Sep 26, 2018 11:57:42 am PDT #29964 of 30002
Every now and then, I think I might actually be a little odd.

Toddson, holy shit.


Toddson - Sep 26, 2018 12:02:14 pm PDT #29965 of 30002
Friends don't let friends read "Atlas Shrugged"

Some girls - the "tough" girls - would have fights after school, usually about a boy. The loser would usually have her outer clothes ripped off, leaving her to get through the boys waiting to see who lost so they could grope her ... or worse.


Connie Neil - Sep 26, 2018 12:38:43 pm PDT #29966 of 30002
brillig

Makes Hubby's parents giving him a gun to take to school for protection from the gangs that wanted to kill him seem kind of reasonable.


Toddson - Sep 26, 2018 12:39:00 pm PDT #29967 of 30002
Friends don't let friends read "Atlas Shrugged"

billy tea probably knows, but seemingly the Waiwondi (spelling?) tree kangaroo, after disappearing for 90 years and being assumed extinct has been spotted - alive and well. Obviously, it has earned its classification as "elusive."


Connie Neil - Sep 26, 2018 12:42:05 pm PDT #29968 of 30002
brillig

"I go out of town for a few weeks and everybody says I'm extinct."


Zenkitty - Sep 26, 2018 12:43:57 pm PDT #29969 of 30002
Every now and then, I think I might actually be a little odd.

This is good precedent for the possible survival of the thylacine!