Mal: Well said. Wasn't that well said, Zoe? Zoe: Had a kind poetry to it, sir.

'Out Of Gas'


Natter 75: More Than a Million Natters Served  

Off-topic discussion. Wanna talk about corsets, duct tape, butt kicking, or physics? This is the place. Detailed discussion of any current-season TV must be whitefonted.


Fred Pete - Sep 18, 2018 7:44:09 am PDT #29702 of 30002
Ann, that's a ferret.

Maybe it's a function of being male, but I say no without even getting to that issue. To me, withholding so many documents from the Committee, and dumping so many others on the Committee with no time to review before the confirmation hearings start equals, at minimum, a need to wait until the complete record is available and it's possible to know what they're hiding.

That said, I believe that Ford is telling the truth (with the caveat that she may have imperfect recall of the details, by which I mean that she may remember that his shirt was blue when in fact it might have brown). And that dismissing the incident as misreading signals/overenthusiasm or the like is outrageous.


DebetEsse - Sep 18, 2018 7:46:19 am PDT #29703 of 30002
Woe to the fucking wicked.

Yeah, he was a hard no before this stuff, Now he's a "and the horse you rode in on" no.


Dana - Sep 18, 2018 7:50:48 am PDT #29704 of 30002
"I'm useless alone." // "We're all useless alone. It's a good thing you're not alone."

one criminal act as a minor should not be an automatic disqualification.

I agree with this in general, but it frustrates me to no end that we're spending so much time trying to figure out these fine points of character and redemption and guilt and absolution while the larger problem is still so...large. You know? I'm not saying it's not an important conversation. It's incredibly important. But I would like to see having non-sexual-assaulty-men in positions of power be a higher priority. (And more women in positions of power, more diversity, etc.)

And technically I realize that there's no reason we can't have these things concurrently, but it seems like the national conversation gets so absorbed in the first part that it gets 80% of the discussion when it's 20% of the problem.


Topic!Cindy - Sep 18, 2018 7:59:45 am PDT #29705 of 30002
What is even happening?

I agree Dana. That frustrates me in the same way the worry pieces about comebacks for people like Louis CK do.

I also agree with you, Debet. For me, Kavanaugh was a hard no because of his stances, and then a harder no, when it was clear how shifty he is, and gave dishonest answers in the Judiciary Committee hearings. With him in particular, the attempted rape is the poop sauce on the shit sundae. My other comments were to the more general topic.


quester - Sep 18, 2018 8:07:54 am PDT #29706 of 30002
Danger is my middle name, only I spell it R. u. t. h. - Tina Belcher.

Happy birthday, Board!


meara - Sep 18, 2018 8:51:40 am PDT #29707 of 30002

Yeah, after reading Heidi Bomd's take on the Kozinski stuff, in Slate (also, kick ass Heidi Bond!) I don't even have o get to potential juvenile crimes or not before I smell rotten lying that should disqualify. Again, if he were like "yeah, I got the emails and I should have spoken up but I didn't and I'm sorry"I'd have a harder time, but he didn't.


sj - Sep 18, 2018 8:58:08 am PDT #29708 of 30002
"There are few hours in life more agreeable than the hour dedicated to the ceremony known as afternoon tea."

Definitely no too late, Debet. I found a recipe for that for a slow cooker that I will keep in mind. I'm not making the cabbage today.


Calli - Sep 18, 2018 9:07:44 am PDT #29709 of 30002
I must obey the inscrutable exhortations of my soul—Calvin and Hobbs

Cabbage tends to keep for a bit.


shrift - Sep 18, 2018 9:25:25 am PDT #29710 of 30002
"You can't put a price on the joy of not giving a shit." -Zenkitty

sj, you can use up a lot of cabbage in stir fry.

I got a flu shot on Friday, and by Saturday afternoon, I was definitely not feeling good. I thought I was being overly cautious by taking a sick day yesterday, but I'm at work today and feeling maybe 60%.


Toddson - Sep 18, 2018 10:36:52 am PDT #29711 of 30002
Friends don't let friends read "Atlas Shrugged"

I once made a recipe where you cook shredded cabbage in beef broth and ... drain it, I think, and mix in sour cream to make a sauce. It was tasty ... but considering the weather (and lack of an actual, you know, recipe) it's not something I'd recommend at this point.