Giles: Helping out with the dishes makes me feel useful. Dawn: Wanna clean out the garage with us Saturday? You could feel indispensable.

'Dirty Girls'


Natter 75: More Than a Million Natters Served  

Off-topic discussion. Wanna talk about corsets, duct tape, butt kicking, or physics? This is the place. Detailed discussion of any current-season TV must be whitefonted.


Sue - Aug 23, 2018 3:21:23 am PDT #28714 of 30002
hip deep in pie

Thanks everyone. I don't know when surgery is supposed to happen today, but I am pretty stressed. I'm sure if this week hadn't been so turvy topsy, I wouldn't feel so much like my head's going to explode.

My RMT had a cancellation for this afternoon, so I am having a massage, but I almost feel too wound up for it.


Dana - Aug 23, 2018 3:23:07 am PDT #28715 of 30002
I'm terrifically busy with my ennui.

Current 7AM meeting conversation:

Manager: Remember how we voted on what tasks we thought needed to be done? This one got the most votes, so I was going to do Thing 1 to fulfill it.

Everyone else: We really thought that meant Thing 2.

Manager: But everyone has to be involved in developing Thing 2.

EE: Okay, but it's really critical to our work, which is why we all voted for it.

M: I could work on the one that got the next-most votes.

EE: Or...we could figure out how to get Thing 2 done.

M: Well, thing 2 is really complicated.

EE: Right, which is why it's important to all of us.

M: Are you sure you don't want Thing 1?

EE: I guess we could start with that, but we really REALLY need Thing 2.

M: Well, did we all agree on what that task meant when we voted on it?

Dana: *head explodes, promises self doughnuts for surviving this meeting*


Dana - Aug 23, 2018 3:23:49 am PDT #28716 of 30002
I'm terrifically busy with my ennui.

Good luck, Sue. The whole surgery scheduling thing is crazy and hard to wait through.


-t - Aug 23, 2018 3:36:54 am PDT #28717 of 30002
I am a woman of various inclinations and only some of the time are they to burn everything down in frustration

Hope the massage helps, Sue. Continuing surgery~ma.

Loved As I Lay Dying.

Have fun going or have a good rest not going, Shir

No superpowers apparent yet. Not sure what the power of yogurt might be, though, so can't really test systematically.


Dana - Aug 23, 2018 4:09:05 am PDT #28718 of 30002
I'm terrifically busy with my ennui.

We need to plan.

But we need to see the plan before we can plan.

The whole plan is too big.

We need at least an outline of the plan.

We're too busy to put together the whole plan.

But how do we know what parts of the plan to plan if we don't have a plan?


-t - Aug 23, 2018 4:11:25 am PDT #28719 of 30002
I am a woman of various inclinations and only some of the time are they to burn everything down in frustration

Your meetings are, like, the platonic ideal towards which all meetings aspire, Dana. Benchmarks.


Dana - Aug 23, 2018 4:12:20 am PDT #28720 of 30002
I'm terrifically busy with my ennui.

Manager is now sighing and put-upon and saying nothing she ever does is good enough.


Dana - Aug 23, 2018 4:14:53 am PDT #28721 of 30002
I'm terrifically busy with my ennui.

OH MY GOD someone is proposing smaller working groups, which is what I've been saying SINCE I STARTED THIS JOB because we are scattered across the world and 7AM is literally the only time we can all meet and having everyone involved in every piece of everything is NOT FEASIBLE.


Gudanov - Aug 23, 2018 4:15:46 am PDT #28722 of 30002
Coding and Sleeping

Sounds like you needed a pre-planning meeting and a pre-meeting for the pre-planning meeting to be ready for the planning meeting.


Dana - Aug 23, 2018 4:17:13 am PDT #28723 of 30002
I'm terrifically busy with my ennui.

Oh, Jesus, now my coworker is backing up our manager and saying we need to stop worrying about who's happy. That's definitely going to be useful.