Sometimes a thing gets broke, can't be fixed.

Kaylee ,'Out Of Gas'


Natter 75: More Than a Million Natters Served  

Off-topic discussion. Wanna talk about corsets, duct tape, butt kicking, or physics? This is the place. Detailed discussion of any current-season TV must be whitefonted.


Calli - Jun 20, 2018 1:43:42 am PDT #26399 of 30002
I must obey the inscrutable exhortations of my soul—Calvin and Hobbs

Poor kitty. It's good of you to try to help it, Shir.


Laura - Jun 20, 2018 2:09:42 am PDT #26400 of 30002
Our wings are not tired.

I have new hope for the world!! I just read my FB notifications and a friend that was arguing "the other side" about the family separation issue yesterday on my wall posted this at 1:31 AM.

I've researched. I've changed my mind on what is happening with these children. It's not right on any level. This has to change. Now! The guy that mocked the 12 yo with Down syndrome needs kicked in the teeth. I have a strong desire to protect children. I adopted mine as babies. I'm now raising my own grandchildren myself (with hubby) and I should have looked into this deeper. I apologize to anyone I offended and I assure you, when it comes to children, I don't care what their race, religion, or anything else is. I will do what I can to protect them. I am not a republican and I am not a democrat, I'm right in the middle. But I am human, my heart breaks easily. It really truly tears me apart to see this Nation divided. You don't have to like our president. But you should not wish for him to fail. I did not like Obama. I never wished him harm and never wanted him to fail. I'm going back to put blinders on and try to ignore all the hate. To my friends Michelle and Laura, thanks for opening my eyes.

We were heard! This friend has argued with DH countless times when he complains about Trump. Seriously, I have new hope. Not only did she take the time to research, she broadcasted to her friends her change of position.

eta: my cousin Danny is still an ass on the subject, but we are able to compartmentalize our differences and still enjoy spending time together not talking about the many issues that divide us


Shir - Jun 20, 2018 3:09:17 am PDT #26401 of 30002
"And that's why God Almighty gave us fire insurance and the public defender".

Yay Laura!

Trap is installed! Thanks to back channels and not proper channels, though. We now only need the cat to find it. Crossing fingers for sooner rather than later. (Update: cat broke out of the trap. Back to the drawing board, and convincing Proper Channels to take away metal thingie so that cat will have a chance to survive the weekend without feeding, for an open window is better than a dead cat that is stuck in a hard-to-get-to-place in the ceiling).

I also printed an FAQ regarding ceiling cat because I've been answering the same questions/statements for too long. "There's a cat in the ceiling. It meows". Dear, it's a trapped cat. It won't start a physics' lecture in Swahili. It meows. That's what they do.


Jesse - Jun 20, 2018 4:15:25 am PDT #26402 of 30002
Sometimes I trip on how happy we could be.

That's amazing, Laura. But I'm still mystified as to what she thought she was defending without having any facts.

CEILING CAT IS REAL!!


Laura - Jun 20, 2018 4:18:36 am PDT #26403 of 30002
Our wings are not tired.

But I'm still mystified as to what she thought she was defending without having any facts.

The "sources" of information she had been using were publications like the National Review. I am encouraged that she took the time to research more widely and changed her mind in the face of facts. Sadly, this seems to be the exception rather than the rule lately.


Toddson - Jun 20, 2018 5:42:58 am PDT #26404 of 30002
Friends don't let friends read "Atlas Shrugged"

Seemingly the DHS secretary decided to go out to eat (ironically at a Mexican restaurant) and was driven out by protesters standing around changing "shame, shame".


Toddson - Jun 20, 2018 5:45:02 am PDT #26405 of 30002
Friends don't let friends read "Atlas Shrugged"

Dana, once - years ago - I acted as an in-house trainer on the computer system. I wrote up little instruction sheets as needed and shared them. One of the staff copied hers and shared them with her father; he'd reached the point where he was on a first-name basis with his computer's tech support people.


Laura - Jun 20, 2018 5:48:19 am PDT #26406 of 30002
Our wings are not tired.

Seemingly the DHS secretary decided to go out to eat (ironically at a Mexican restaurant) and was driven out by protesters standing around changing "shame, shame".

As a general rule I let recognized people dine out without annoying them; I'd make an exception for people that take kids away from parents and keep them in cages.


Gudanov - Jun 20, 2018 5:58:12 am PDT #26407 of 30002
Coding and Sleeping

Seemingly the DHS secretary decided to go out to eat (ironically at a Mexican restaurant) and was driven out by protesters standing around changing "shame, shame".

I don't know how people keep working for Trump. How could it be worth it?


Jessica - Jun 20, 2018 6:05:13 am PDT #26408 of 30002
And then Ortus came and said "It's Ortin' time" and they all Orted off into the sunset

As a general rule I let recognized people dine out without annoying them; I'd make an exception for people that take kids away from parents and keep them in cages.

Yeah, I think if your policy is forcibly separating asylum seeking parents from their asylum seeking infants, I see no moral issue with a crowd of protesters forcibly separating you from your enchiladas.