Well, it's just good to know that when the chips are down and things look grim you'll feed off the girl who loves you to save your own ass!

Xander ,'Chosen'


Natter 75: More Than a Million Natters Served  

Off-topic discussion. Wanna talk about corsets, duct tape, butt kicking, or physics? This is the place. Detailed discussion of any current-season TV must be whitefonted.


Maria - Jun 05, 2018 5:56:09 pm PDT #25917 of 30002
Not so nice is that I'm about to ruin a Friday morning for a bunch of people because of a series of unfortunate events and an upset foreign government. - shrift

Ugh. I'm sorry it's been a shit day (or few days) for people.

sarameg, I'm so sorry.


sarameg - Jun 05, 2018 6:18:18 pm PDT #25918 of 30002

I'm ok, just sitting here acknowledging mortality. I'm getting better at it, if better is just "sigh."

Which is piling on.

...I think my mom's short term memory issues are escalating. We're coping, but I think dad's gonna need to take over the financials soon. It causes her too much anxiety over whether she remembered to pay this or that (she always has, because she's like that) which leads to more forgetfulness,which leads to more anxious spiraling, etc.

But it's always been her bailiwick, so this will be fun. Dad can do it, he's managed multimillion contracts, just skated on the domestic budget. Hell, he got an allowance for years.

Until the last couple years, we'd all assumed mom would outlive/outbrain dad. Them included. We're recalculating.


sarameg - Jun 05, 2018 6:30:20 pm PDT #25919 of 30002

Sorry, just having a mental dump.


Calli - Jun 06, 2018 1:57:52 am PDT #25920 of 30002
I must obey the inscrutable exhortations of my soul—Calvin and Hobbs

It's not "I'm not getting what I need" it's "Somebody is getting something they don't deserve".

And somehow, in their minds, the people who "don't deserve" things are usually darker skinned than the people getting in a huff. I think this is behind white people on or below the edge of financial security voting for people who are destroying the social security net. Sure, it means that help won't be there for them, but at least those people won't be getting something they don't deserve. And I don't know how to talk to people like that. What do you say to someone who'd rather watch their own kids go hungry than know that, somewhere, a poor kid of color is getting a sandwich?


Jesse - Jun 06, 2018 2:36:20 am PDT #25921 of 30002
Sometimes I trip on how happy we could be.

Question for the group: I'm going to a high school graduation party for someone who is basically like family. We aren't close. His parents have no sense of social mores, so I don't have to worry about what they will think. My mother already gave a gift. The grad has a brother graduating next year. Do I give him a gift? I was thinking just cash, but how much?


Laura - Jun 06, 2018 2:39:32 am PDT #25922 of 30002
Our wings are not tired.

{{sarameg}} That's a lot. Mortality blows. Mom transitioned the cooking, cleaning, and bookkeeping to step-dad over a period of years. It was complicated by him having zero experience on the domestic front. Fortunately she found his incompetencies adorable rather than frustrating and they managed the transition.

Early morning news scanning seems encouraging on the primary fronts. Hope all the Buffista voters had good outcomes.

HI-larious encounter on my beach travels yesterday. The SUV in front of us had a huge Ravens sticker on the back window, a third scraped off. Over the remains he had an X in blue duct tape with "F@##$ the Ravens" and "Respect Our Flag and Country" written on it. Maybe he gets Hell Yeah responses from some, but we both pointed and burst out laughing. NFL is so screwed pissing off both sides with losing people who hate the kneeling, and losing those that hate the owners and their rules.


Shir - Jun 06, 2018 2:40:39 am PDT #25923 of 30002
"And that's why God Almighty gave us fire insurance and the public defender".

Until the last couple years, we'd all assumed mom would outlive/outbrain dad. Them included. We're recalculating.

I am sorry. This is hard.


Laura - Jun 06, 2018 2:46:01 am PDT #25924 of 30002
Our wings are not tired.

Jesse. in our family and community environment high school graduation parties were common, but often celebrating multiple graduates together. Gifts weren't generally even given unless really close. Sometimes just slipping the kid a $20. Never really thought about it but it seems the parties were the point, and all helped with food and beverage. Different regions/families experience may differ.


sj - Jun 06, 2018 3:02:52 am PDT #25925 of 30002
"There are few hours in life more agreeable than the hour dedicated to the ceremony known as afternoon tea."

Jesse $25 in a card is what I would do.


Jesse - Jun 06, 2018 3:29:37 am PDT #25926 of 30002
Sometimes I trip on how happy we could be.

Thanks, guys!

In other news, here's an amazing podcast on Johnlock fandom, with an excerpt in text: [link] The podcast opens with Willa Paskin talking about how she was a Brenda/Dylan shipper, which feels like a nice grounding for if any non-fandom people are listening.