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Natter 75: More Than a Million Natters Served  

Off-topic discussion. Wanna talk about corsets, duct tape, butt kicking, or physics? This is the place. Detailed discussion of any current-season TV must be whitefonted.


Steph L. - Apr 10, 2018 6:25:21 am PDT #24247 of 30002
this mess was yours / now your mess is mine

In the case of Robert Mueller, POTUS can't directly fire him, but he can order Deputy Attorney General Rod Rosenstein to fire him (which is the same thing). I think that's what Nixon did.

IIRC, the reason that he can do this is in one of the articles of the Constitution -- POTUS is supposed to (in theory) make sure the laws are faithfully executed. So anyone executing laws on behalf of POTUS have to be removable by him as well, otherwise anyone could go rogue and fuck shit up. (Even though, yes, it's actually POTUS who is fucking shit up.)


Laura - Apr 10, 2018 6:30:59 am PDT #24248 of 30002
Our wings are not tired.

Also, does anyone old enough during Watergate remember if there was the same kind of rats leaving a sinking ship mass exodus at the White House that we're seeing now?

I remember it well because voting against Nixon was my very first vote! It was big news of course, but I don't really remember the kind of rats leaving the sinking ship as we do now. The close inner circle thinned out, but that was as a direct result of being directly involved. I could be wrong, but it seems the rest of the government ran normally. Then again, Nixon had regular pros in charge of departments not lap dogs.


Dana - Apr 10, 2018 6:37:55 am PDT #24249 of 30002
I'm terrifically busy with my ennui.

Republicans are talking big, but I have no faith they'll intervene if Trump does fire Mueller. They'll mumble things about how they're disappointed or some bullshit, but they won't do anything.


Amy - Apr 10, 2018 6:41:01 am PDT #24250 of 30002
Because books.

Thank you, Steph.


Steph L. - Apr 10, 2018 6:52:33 am PDT #24251 of 30002
this mess was yours / now your mess is mine

Thank you, Steph.

I hope I remembered all that correctly. I'm kind of spotty on government/politics/history.

Republicans are talking big, but I have no faith they'll intervene if Trump does fire Mueller. They'll mumble things about how they're disappointed or some bullshit, but they won't do anything.

We have got to flip Congress in the mid-terms. I saw a quote from Ted Cruz that said "Let me tell you right now: the left is going to show up. They will crawl over broken glass in November to vote." No shit, Sherlock. You sound a little afraid of losing your job.

Although maybe he means that literally. At this point, I would be 100% unsurprised if polling places were surrounded by broken glass that people have to crawl over to vote.


Dana - Apr 10, 2018 6:55:55 am PDT #24252 of 30002
I'm terrifically busy with my ennui.

You sound a little afraid of losing your job.

Cruz only just really started campaigning, but so far, Beto O'Rourke is out-fundraising him.


-t - Apr 10, 2018 7:03:38 am PDT #24253 of 30002
I am a woman of various inclinations and only some of the time are they to burn everything down in frustration

At this point, I would be 100% unsurprised if polling places were surrounded by broken glass that people have to crawl over to vote.

Yeah, that seems like the way things will go.


Laura - Apr 10, 2018 7:38:48 am PDT #24254 of 30002
Our wings are not tired.

It is going to be a nasty summer for political ads, again. We have my vile governor trying to unseat our Dem senator too. No idea how that will go. It stunned me that people voted for Scott twice for the governor position already. Turnout would be nice. Sooooo many states have had people dropped from the registration lists and/or make it as hard as possible for people in Dem districts to vote.


Laura - Apr 10, 2018 7:43:39 am PDT #24255 of 30002
Our wings are not tired.

Oh well, apparently the HS picked another head coach. (hear my sigh of relief) Out of a pool of several great choices they went with a guy that was one of the school's prior basketball stars. He has minimal coaching experience, swears at the kids, and has other issues. Bottom line, I wish them well and am super happy to get my husband back to do lots of other things on the list!


-t - Apr 10, 2018 7:48:10 am PDT #24256 of 30002
I am a woman of various inclinations and only some of the time are they to burn everything down in frustration

Oh well, glad you get more time with B!