So, how was your summer? Mine was fun. Saw some fish. Went mad with hunger. Hallucinated a whole bunch.

Angel ,'Conviction (1)'


Natter 75: More Than a Million Natters Served  

Off-topic discussion. Wanna talk about corsets, duct tape, butt kicking, or physics? This is the place. Detailed discussion of any current-season TV must be whitefonted.


Volans - Oct 27, 2016 11:36:23 am PDT #232 of 30002
move out and draw fire

eeeee!!! I'm so excited for you!


Sheryl - Oct 27, 2016 12:17:31 pm PDT #233 of 30002
Fandom means never having to say "But where would I wear that?"

Timelies all!

Yay, Hec!


lisah - Oct 27, 2016 12:34:19 pm PDT #234 of 30002
Punishingly Intricate

Continued good meetings, Hec, and a commitment SOON!


shrift - Oct 27, 2016 12:43:43 pm PDT #235 of 30002
"You can't put a price on the joy of not giving a shit." -Zenkitty

Greetings from Queenstown, NZ. It's gorgeous here.


esse - Oct 27, 2016 1:10:49 pm PDT #236 of 30002
S to the A -- using they/them pronouns!

shrift, I love following your trip with Lee.

NZ is one of my favorite places, and is absurdly beautiful. I spent five weeks there, on the North and South Islands, and I don't think it's possible to capture that beauty unless you're there or in a particularly vivid memory.


Connie Neil - Oct 27, 2016 1:35:19 pm PDT #237 of 30002
brillig

Question on cookware, now that I have a new kitchen to make in my own image. I have a non-stick skillet. According to some sources, I should just slit my wrists now, since I'm apparently killing myself by using it. I know part of the problem with Teflon was that people would leave them on hot burners for ages unattended, which I know better than to do. Even though I have a dishwasher now, I don't want to spend eons scrubbing out my skillet. Do I need to save myself and get a new skillet?


askye - Oct 27, 2016 1:51:11 pm PDT #238 of 30002
Thrive to spite them

I have a teflon pan I use that hasn't killed me yet.

I think the main thing is not to scratch it so the coating comes up and also not to heat it really high... although I the point it becomes a danger is higher than most people cook with.

There are other non stick options other than Teflon now and if you want to get a new pan.


Connie Neil - Oct 27, 2016 1:58:33 pm PDT #239 of 30002
brillig

I don't think I have actual Teflon, unless they just changed the name.


esse - Oct 27, 2016 1:59:07 pm PDT #240 of 30002
S to the A -- using they/them pronouns!

Question on cookware, now that I have a new kitchen to make in my own image. I have a non-stick skillet. According to some sources, I should just slit my wrists now, since I'm apparently killing myself by using it. I know part of the problem with Teflon was that people would leave them on hot burners for ages unattended, which I know better than to do. Even though I have a dishwasher now, I don't want to spend eons scrubbing out my skillet. Do I need to save myself and get a new skillet?

It's fine to use a teflon pan in general, but I would suggest you discard it when there has been a scratch on the bottom of the pan deep enough that you can see the metal base of the pan, or it holds even a hint of rust. Teflon generally isn't the issue -- it wouldn't be FDA compliant if it was -- but you're only meant to eat food from the top of the teflon coating, where the barrier forms to keep the non-sticking action working.

You're not going to get ill from a few flecks of teflon in your food, but as more will flake off the longer you use the pan -- particularly as you're introducing heat every time as well -- the more you will inadvertently consume.

Stainless steel pans are a great option, particularly if you're using olive or coconut oil as a cooking base. For frying or searing, you can use an oil mixed with some butter, but generally I don't use butter on its own with stainless steel as I find it burns off too quickly at high heat. WalMart carries a 10" stainless steel sauté pan with a lid for ten bucks, and that pan will cover almost everything you might need to cook.


Connie Neil - Oct 27, 2016 2:07:34 pm PDT #241 of 30002
brillig

Well, I've had the pan for about three years, I'll look around for a smallish stainless steel skillet.