Well, it's just good to know that when the chips are down and things look grim you'll feed off the girl who loves you to save your own ass!

Xander ,'Chosen'


Natter 75: More Than a Million Natters Served  

Off-topic discussion. Wanna talk about corsets, duct tape, butt kicking, or physics? This is the place. Detailed discussion of any current-season TV must be whitefonted.


lisah - Oct 27, 2016 12:34:19 pm PDT #234 of 30002
Punishingly Intricate

Continued good meetings, Hec, and a commitment SOON!


shrift - Oct 27, 2016 12:43:43 pm PDT #235 of 30002
"You can't put a price on the joy of not giving a shit." -Zenkitty

Greetings from Queenstown, NZ. It's gorgeous here.


esse - Oct 27, 2016 1:10:49 pm PDT #236 of 30002
S to the A -- using they/them pronouns!

shrift, I love following your trip with Lee.

NZ is one of my favorite places, and is absurdly beautiful. I spent five weeks there, on the North and South Islands, and I don't think it's possible to capture that beauty unless you're there or in a particularly vivid memory.


Connie Neil - Oct 27, 2016 1:35:19 pm PDT #237 of 30002
brillig

Question on cookware, now that I have a new kitchen to make in my own image. I have a non-stick skillet. According to some sources, I should just slit my wrists now, since I'm apparently killing myself by using it. I know part of the problem with Teflon was that people would leave them on hot burners for ages unattended, which I know better than to do. Even though I have a dishwasher now, I don't want to spend eons scrubbing out my skillet. Do I need to save myself and get a new skillet?


askye - Oct 27, 2016 1:51:11 pm PDT #238 of 30002
Thrive to spite them

I have a teflon pan I use that hasn't killed me yet.

I think the main thing is not to scratch it so the coating comes up and also not to heat it really high... although I the point it becomes a danger is higher than most people cook with.

There are other non stick options other than Teflon now and if you want to get a new pan.


Connie Neil - Oct 27, 2016 1:58:33 pm PDT #239 of 30002
brillig

I don't think I have actual Teflon, unless they just changed the name.


esse - Oct 27, 2016 1:59:07 pm PDT #240 of 30002
S to the A -- using they/them pronouns!

Question on cookware, now that I have a new kitchen to make in my own image. I have a non-stick skillet. According to some sources, I should just slit my wrists now, since I'm apparently killing myself by using it. I know part of the problem with Teflon was that people would leave them on hot burners for ages unattended, which I know better than to do. Even though I have a dishwasher now, I don't want to spend eons scrubbing out my skillet. Do I need to save myself and get a new skillet?

It's fine to use a teflon pan in general, but I would suggest you discard it when there has been a scratch on the bottom of the pan deep enough that you can see the metal base of the pan, or it holds even a hint of rust. Teflon generally isn't the issue -- it wouldn't be FDA compliant if it was -- but you're only meant to eat food from the top of the teflon coating, where the barrier forms to keep the non-sticking action working.

You're not going to get ill from a few flecks of teflon in your food, but as more will flake off the longer you use the pan -- particularly as you're introducing heat every time as well -- the more you will inadvertently consume.

Stainless steel pans are a great option, particularly if you're using olive or coconut oil as a cooking base. For frying or searing, you can use an oil mixed with some butter, but generally I don't use butter on its own with stainless steel as I find it burns off too quickly at high heat. WalMart carries a 10" stainless steel sauté pan with a lid for ten bucks, and that pan will cover almost everything you might need to cook.


Connie Neil - Oct 27, 2016 2:07:34 pm PDT #241 of 30002
brillig

Well, I've had the pan for about three years, I'll look around for a smallish stainless steel skillet.


Matt the Bruins fan - Oct 27, 2016 2:11:14 pm PDT #242 of 30002
"I remember when they eventually introduced that drug kingpin who murdered people and smuggled drugs inside snakes and I was like 'Finally. A normal person.'” —RahvinDragand

Cast iron is always a safe choice, for home defense as well as cooking.


Connie Neil - Oct 27, 2016 2:17:19 pm PDT #243 of 30002
brillig

Cast iron is fussy. I don't do fussy cookware. And I prefer swords for home defense, it's hard to stab with a cast iron skillet--though the skillet-and-carving knife combination is classic.