Mal: Zoe, why do I have a wife? Jayne: You got a wife? All I got is that dumbass stick sounds like its raining. How come you got a wife?

'Our Mrs. Reynolds'


Natter 75: More Than a Million Natters Served  

Off-topic discussion. Wanna talk about corsets, duct tape, butt kicking, or physics? This is the place. Detailed discussion of any current-season TV must be whitefonted.


Scrappy - Jan 23, 2018 6:38:32 am PST #21344 of 30002
Life moves pretty fast. You don't stop and look around once in a while, you could miss it.

Go get 'em, Smay!


JZ - Jan 23, 2018 6:53:04 am PST #21345 of 30002
See? I gave everybody here an opportunity to tell me what a bad person I am and nobody did, because I fuckin' rule.

I went to a couple of meetings in college, by which time I'd been reading and digesting a fair amount of theology and comparative religion, and even as someone who was solidly Team Religion Yay! I had -- not alarm bells, exactly, but ick bells going off. These people were not Merton or Dorothy Day and when they appealed to emotions it wasn't in an ecstatic, inclusive Francis of Assisi way but in a way that just got my back up although I couldn't quite articulate how. (Maybe reading too much Flannery O'Connor at a young age is what did it?)

It was easy enough for me to ghost my way out of that group after just a couple of meetings, but if I felt uneasy and manipulated as a college student, I can't imagine what it would have felt like to me as a middle schooler. (Actually, I'm sure YL was active in my hometown, but the pretty, popular, athletic kids loathed me and anyone like me and they would've cut off a limb before inviting any of us to anything; we were totally unworthy of their Jesus.)

So when Matilda handed me the letter and permission slip, all the ick bells went off again, way closer to alarm because middle school is SO fucking different from college, and I just took it without saying a word to her and went online to Google the shit out of it. I didn't dig deep enough to find the really disturbing shit Hec did, but enough for a good strong HELL NO.


Steph L. - Jan 23, 2018 6:57:53 am PST #21346 of 30002
this mess was yours / now your mess is mine

because middle school is SO fucking different from college

Because they aren't legally adults. It's so gross. They bank on the idea that parents, when handed a permission slip, will think "Oh, well, it's CHURCH, so that's okay, then." Reprehensible.


DavidS - Jan 23, 2018 7:05:18 am PST #21347 of 30002
"Look, son, if it's good enough for Shirley Bassey, it's good enough for you."

And now talking to another parent, I discover that this guy bought these kids ice cream at the local store while handing out his applications to psycho Jesus camp. So freaking skeezy and manipulative.

We're in a literal "don't take candy from strangers" scenario.

::checks clock::

Okay, I've heard back from the parent who is doing humanitarian work in Kenya before I've heard back from the school. I presume school admins are running around in ass-covering mode but I am about to escalate.


JZ - Jan 23, 2018 7:09:23 am PST #21348 of 30002
See? I gave everybody here an opportunity to tell me what a bad person I am and nobody did, because I fuckin' rule.

They bank on the idea that parents, when handed a permission slip, will think "Oh, well, it's CHURCH, so that's okay, then."

You'd think they would know better in San Francisco. Here, even the churchy people give church stuff the side-eye and very, very little benefit of the doubt. Especially in public schools, but really pretty much everywhere and at all times.


JZ - Jan 23, 2018 7:09:46 am PST #21349 of 30002
See? I gave everybody here an opportunity to tell me what a bad person I am and nobody did, because I fuckin' rule.

What did the humanitarian parent say?


sj - Jan 23, 2018 7:10:12 am PST #21350 of 30002
"There are few hours in life more agreeable than the hour dedicated to the ceremony known as afternoon tea."

Go get em, Hec!


Una - Jan 23, 2018 7:27:49 am PST #21351 of 30002
when i die, please bake my ashes into a brick and use me to hit fascists.

I am waving my pompoms and fascinated by this story. If only every kid's parents were this aware!


DavidS - Jan 23, 2018 7:30:10 am PST #21352 of 30002
"Look, son, if it's good enough for Shirley Bassey, it's good enough for you."

What did the humanitarian parent say?

Michelle (Caterina's mom) said "This is very disturbing. Thanks for looking out for my kid while I'm on another continent."


Laura - Jan 23, 2018 7:35:48 am PST #21353 of 30002
Our wings are not tired.

I am sure the school will respond, and I expect will not be pleased, but they have to go through the beaurocrazy first.