because middle school is SO fucking different from college
Because they aren't legally adults. It's so gross. They bank on the idea that parents, when handed a permission slip, will think "Oh, well, it's CHURCH, so that's okay, then." Reprehensible.
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Steph L. - Jan 23, 2018 6:57:53 am PST #21346 of 30002
this mess was yours / now your mess is mine
DavidS - Jan 23, 2018 7:05:18 am PST #21347 of 30002
"Look, son, if it's good enough for Shirley Bassey, it's good enough for you."
And now talking to another parent, I discover that this guy bought these kids ice cream at the local store while handing out his applications to psycho Jesus camp. So freaking skeezy and manipulative.
We're in a literal "don't take candy from strangers" scenario.
::checks clock::
Okay, I've heard back from the parent who is doing humanitarian work in Kenya before I've heard back from the school. I presume school admins are running around in ass-covering mode but I am about to escalate.
JZ - Jan 23, 2018 7:09:23 am PST #21348 of 30002
See? I gave everybody here an opportunity to tell me what a bad person I am and nobody did, because I fuckin' rule.
They bank on the idea that parents, when handed a permission slip, will think "Oh, well, it's CHURCH, so that's okay, then."
You'd think they would know better in San Francisco. Here, even the churchy people give church stuff the side-eye and very, very little benefit of the doubt. Especially in public schools, but really pretty much everywhere and at all times.
JZ - Jan 23, 2018 7:09:46 am PST #21349 of 30002
See? I gave everybody here an opportunity to tell me what a bad person I am and nobody did, because I fuckin' rule.
What did the humanitarian parent say?
sj - Jan 23, 2018 7:10:12 am PST #21350 of 30002
"There are few hours in life more agreeable than the hour dedicated to the ceremony known as afternoon tea."
Go get em, Hec!
Una - Jan 23, 2018 7:27:49 am PST #21351 of 30002
when i die, please bake my ashes into a brick and use me to hit fascists.
I am waving my pompoms and fascinated by this story. If only every kid's parents were this aware!
DavidS - Jan 23, 2018 7:30:10 am PST #21352 of 30002
"Look, son, if it's good enough for Shirley Bassey, it's good enough for you."
What did the humanitarian parent say?
Michelle (Caterina's mom) said "This is very disturbing. Thanks for looking out for my kid while I'm on another continent."
Laura - Jan 23, 2018 7:35:48 am PST #21353 of 30002
Our wings are not tired.
I am sure the school will respond, and I expect will not be pleased, but they have to go through the beaurocrazy first.
Jesse - Jan 23, 2018 7:37:34 am PST #21354 of 30002
Sometimes I trip on how happy we could be.
I hate to inject levity in the middle of this, but I just got an email from someone with my favorite kind of name! She has an elaborate ethnic name, hyphenated with a different ethnicity. In this case, an Eastern European first and last name, hyphenated with a Chinese last name.
America!!
JZ - Jan 23, 2018 7:43:44 am PST #21355 of 30002
See? I gave everybody here an opportunity to tell me what a bad person I am and nobody did, because I fuckin' rule.
The taking-them-all-out-for-ice-cream thing is so deeply gross.
Could be useful - current SFUSD School Board professional conduct policy for all employees (I can't imagine that the rules for substitute teachers are any different than for regular): [link]
Specifically, look at Section 4000, subsection 4019.1, and search there for Boundary Violations. The ice cream trip looks to clearly and specifically violate #7 (the club is just prospective, so not yet an organized community activity, and almost certainly not something the school was aware of ahead of time):
Socializing or spending time with students (including but not limited to activities such as going out for beverages, meals or movies, shopping, traveling and recreational activities and visiting the student's home) outside of school-sponsored events, except as participants in organized community activities.