Early: You folks are all insane. Simon: Well, my sister's a ship. We had a complicated childhood.

'Objects In Space'


Natter 75: More Than a Million Natters Served  

Off-topic discussion. Wanna talk about corsets, duct tape, butt kicking, or physics? This is the place. Detailed discussion of any current-season TV must be whitefonted.


Sophia Brooks - Jan 16, 2018 1:28:45 pm PST #21086 of 30002
Cats to become a rabbit should gather immediately now here

That sucks, Beverly. I think you can indulge in a little petty here, even if you don't show to your DH. You guys have spent a lot of years taking care of others, it seems like you deserve a break to take care of just each other.


amych - Jan 16, 2018 2:26:03 pm PST #21087 of 30002
Now let us crush something soft and watch it fountain blood. That is a girlish thing to want to do, yes?

Not petty, Bev.


Anne W. - Jan 16, 2018 2:58:29 pm PST #21088 of 30002
The lost sheep grow teeth, forsake their lambs, and lie with the lions.

{{{Beverly}}}


WindSparrow - Jan 16, 2018 4:23:45 pm PST #21089 of 30002
Love is stronger than death and harder than sorrow. Those who practice it are fierce like the light of stars traveling eons to pierce the night.

Much love, Bev. It's just not easy.


JZ - Jan 16, 2018 4:47:57 pm PST #21090 of 30002
See? I gave everybody here an opportunity to tell me what a bad person I am and nobody did, because I fuckin' rule.

{{{{Beverly}}}}


Dana - Jan 16, 2018 4:56:04 pm PST #21091 of 30002
I'm terrifically busy with my ennui.

Ugh, I am tired of everything being so complicated. Like, I agree that criticizing Trump based on his weight is no less fat-shaming than it is with anyone else, and there are many, many other reasons to criticize him.

But I also agree that lying about his results (which it seems like someone is) is a hugely representative symptom of his and the entire administration's disregard for the truth, and of their determination to just fucking MAKE the truth whatever they say it is, and ignoring blatant lies lets them get away with it.


meara - Jan 16, 2018 5:19:21 pm PST #21092 of 30002

What you said, Dana. Also I laughed and laughed at Sports Illustrated's pictorial of "athletes who are the same height and weight as Trump". Man.


msbelle - Jan 16, 2018 5:24:38 pm PST #21093 of 30002
I remember the crazy days. 500 posts an hour. Nubmer! Natgbsb

I totally think people can talk about the obvious lie about his weight without it being called fat shaming.

Then again I think shows and books can have homophobic and sexist and bigoted characters without the shows or books being any if those things which seems beyond belief to some.


JZ - Jan 16, 2018 6:01:41 pm PST #21094 of 30002
See? I gave everybody here an opportunity to tell me what a bad person I am and nobody did, because I fuckin' rule.

Ugh. In keeping with the comfort in/dump out rule of the ring theory, I have to dump that I spoke to my boss today to let him know that I might need extra time over the next few months to visit my mom and help support her while she was supporting my brother, and when I mentioned the diagnosis he just got a blank polite look that read to me as, "I am thinking, 'oh, shit,' but I am not going to say it out loud."

If you work for doctors, typically when a friend or family member gets diagnosed with something, anything, they have questions about when the diagnosis was made and where they're going and whether their specialist has talked to so and so at Mayo or Johns Hopkins or Boston Children's or wherever, and just speak up if you want referrals. This time, nothing. Just the polite look. And now I'm more freaked out than I was before.

Which I did not say to my other brother when I called him just now, because he's much closer to Baby!Brother than I am and he is already more freaked than me. So I'm dumping here.

I don't even need an answer, I just needed to dump.

(Also, yeah, the weight is not the issue, it's that the presidential physician appears to have gone on record with a ridiculously obvious lie.)


DebetEsse - Jan 16, 2018 6:30:34 pm PST #21095 of 30002
Woe to the fucking wicked.

~ ma to JZ and Beverly, and everyone else who needs it.