Michael Flynn is pleading guilty today, and in all likelihood has flipped. So maybe things are starting to look up.
Merry f'ing Christmas!
This is my boat. They're part of my crew. No one's getting left. Best you get used to that.
Mal ,'Ariel'
Natter 75: More Than a Million Natters Served
Off-topic discussion. Wanna talk about corsets, duct tape, butt kicking, or physics? This is the place. Detailed discussion of any current-season TV must be whitefonted.
Calli - Dec 01, 2017 5:31:43 am PST #19428 of 30002
I must obey the inscrutable exhortations of my soul—Calvin and Hobbs
Jesse - Dec 01, 2017 5:37:03 am PST #19429 of 30002
Sometimes I trip on how happy we could be.
They will deduct the $4350 if I pay it off by 1/6/18. That is real money, yo! Now the bank just needs to approve the loan and it all falls together.
Holy crap, Laura! Good luck with all that.
Strix, have you been in touch with your local Alz Association? They might have a support group or something that would be useful, even if it's all old people. If nothing else, sometimes it's nice to have a place to cry.
Anne W. - Dec 01, 2017 5:53:25 am PST #19430 of 30002
The lost sheep grow teeth, forsake their lambs, and lie with the lions.
Suzi, I am so sorry.
The news about Flynn is good, but I'm alternating between trying not to get my hopes up too much and cackling with glee.
Steph L. - Dec 01, 2017 6:19:35 am PST #19431 of 30002
this mess was yours / now your mess is mine
I'm thrilled about Flynn, because there's no doubt he's flipped, but now I'm REALLY worried that Trump will fire Mueller.
Dana - Dec 01, 2017 6:36:55 am PST #19432 of 30002
I haven't trusted science since I saw the film "Flubber."
ABC (and maybe others) are saying that Flynn will testify that Trump, when he was a candidate, told him to make contact with the Russians.
Steph L. - Dec 01, 2017 6:41:26 am PST #19433 of 30002
this mess was yours / now your mess is mine
ABC (and maybe others) are saying that Flynn will testify that Trump, when he was a candidate, told him to make contact with the Russians.
Get that treasonous motherfucker out of the Oval Office NOW.
Matt the Bruins fan - Dec 01, 2017 6:44:03 am PST #19434 of 30002
"I remember when they eventually introduced that drug kingpin who murdered people and smuggled drugs inside snakes and I was like 'Finally. A normal person.'” —RahvinDragand
They'll need a second witness to corroborate for a treason conviction, though I imagine that's not necessary for impeachment.
Steph L. - Dec 01, 2017 6:46:33 am PST #19435 of 30002
this mess was yours / now your mess is mine
Yeah, I don't need a treason conviction; I just like calling him a treasonous motherfucker. Because he is.
Tom Scola - Dec 01, 2017 6:51:27 am PST #19436 of 30002
hwæt
From what I understand, treason has a very specific legal definition, that will be difficult to meet in court.
Now, at the very least, Trump appears to be guilty of violating the Logan Act, which says that private citizens can't conduct foreign policy.
But of course, there is a whole lot more to come.
Gudanov - Dec 01, 2017 6:54:14 am PST #19437 of 30002
Coding and Sleeping
I don't think there will be any conviction of Trump. I think the most that will come of it will be impeachment proceedings but probably only if the Dems get control of the house in 2018. I expect 2020 will be the chance to get Trump out of office.