Get up...get up, you stupid piece of... What did you do that for? What's wrong with you? Didn't you hear a word he said? All of you! You think there's someone just going to drop money on you?! Money they could use?! Well, there ain't people like that. There's just people like me.

Jayne ,'Jaynestown'


Natter 75: More Than a Million Natters Served  

Off-topic discussion. Wanna talk about corsets, duct tape, butt kicking, or physics? This is the place. Detailed discussion of any current-season TV must be whitefonted.


-t - Nov 02, 2017 7:55:47 am PDT #18466 of 30002
I am a woman of various inclinations and only some of the time are they to burn everything down in frustration

These aren't wood domes with shingled roofs, though.


msbelle - Nov 02, 2017 8:03:00 am PDT #18467 of 30002
I remember the crazy days. 500 posts an hour. Nubmer! Natgbsb

I went camping out of Phoenicia each year in college and we spent a week near Margretville Mac's second summer here. Phoenicia and Woodstock are both super cute.


Gudanov - Nov 02, 2017 8:16:26 am PDT #18468 of 30002
Coding and Sleeping

Looks like the Republican tax plan would raise my taxes by about $600.


Tom Scola - Nov 02, 2017 8:20:15 am PDT #18469 of 30002
hwæt

I'm afraid to look at just how much getting rid of SALT would raise my taxes.


Gudanov - Nov 02, 2017 8:22:36 am PDT #18470 of 30002
Coding and Sleeping

It'll really hit middle-class people with large families hard.


Gudanov - Nov 02, 2017 8:26:37 am PDT #18471 of 30002
Coding and Sleeping

I'm afraid to look at just how much getting rid of SALT would raise my taxes.

Looks like they are going to cap SALT at $10,000, but the big increase in the standard deduction might mean a lot of people might not have enough deductions to itemize.


Gudanov - Nov 02, 2017 8:27:55 am PDT #18472 of 30002
Coding and Sleeping

Nope, I'm wrong. SALT is eliminated except for property taxes which are capped at $10,000.


Tom Scola - Nov 02, 2017 8:28:44 am PDT #18473 of 30002
hwæt

$10K only for property taxes. Here in NYC, I'm paying a whole lot in state and city income taxes.


Gudanov - Nov 02, 2017 8:33:10 am PDT #18474 of 30002
Coding and Sleeping

A $600 hike isn't terrible, but I feel like I'm just the kind of person they are going to be saying they are going to help with this plan.


NoiseDesign - Nov 02, 2017 8:50:01 am PDT #18475 of 30002
Our wings are not tired

I'm afraid to look at just how much getting rid of SALT would raise my taxes.

I'm pretty sure we are going to get fucked here. The GOP tax plan is targeting high money blue states like CA and NY. Eliminating the tax deduction for home mortgage interest about $500,000 is just brutal. The median price of a home in LA is over that, combine that with the SALT removal and it's not going to be a happy year in states with a high state income tax like CA.