A vague disclaimer is nobody's friend.

Willow ,'Conversations with Dead People'


Natter 75: More Than a Million Natters Served  

Off-topic discussion. Wanna talk about corsets, duct tape, butt kicking, or physics? This is the place. Detailed discussion of any current-season TV must be whitefonted.


Kalshane - Nov 10, 2016 5:27:54 am PST #1695 of 30002
GS: If you had to choose between kicking evil in the head or the behind, which would you choose, and why? Minsc: I'm not sure I understand the question. I have two feet, do I not? You do not take a small plate when the feast of evil welcomes seconds.

I am so angry with my Trump supporter friend and her blind stubbornness. Pence scares the crap out of her, but she just refuses to accept that choosing Pence for his VP is just as important a reflection of what a Trump presidency is going to do as anything Trump himself has said he's going to do. Even more so, since 90% of what Trump says is complete bullshit. She is so wrapped up in her Hillary hate that she refuses to acknowledge just how terrible Trump is.

ION, wife and child are sore this morning, but otherwise doing okay. And I hate my rental car. (2017 Jeep Compass. Enormous blind spots, uncomfortable steering wheel and sluggish engine.)


Tom Scola - Nov 10, 2016 5:31:19 am PST #1696 of 30002
Mr. Scola’s wardrobe by Botany 500

Hate makes you stupid. That's the big lesson from this election.


Gudanov - Nov 10, 2016 5:41:45 am PST #1697 of 30002
Coding and Sleeping

I've never heard much good about the Jeep Compass.


sj - Nov 10, 2016 5:45:12 am PST #1698 of 30002
"There are few hours in life more agreeable than the hour dedicated to the ceremony known as afternoon tea."

sj, you asked for suggestions... The NoDAPL protest is ongoing and even before the election was decided, DAPL announced they were planning on pressing ahead and crossing the river within 2 weeks. I'm sure the tribes protesting there would appreciate a donation for their legal fund if donating was the kind of suggestion you were looking for.

Yes, it is. Thank you for the suggestion.

Otherwise I suggest people make sure they don't forget self-care. One can't take care of others if one isn't taking care of one's self.

I was already struggling with that. This isn't helping.


Gudanov - Nov 10, 2016 5:49:07 am PST #1699 of 30002
Coding and Sleeping

Just more ugh to process. DEMs need a rural America plan.

Will probably need pro-life, NRA approved Dems for that. They exist though. It's going to be tough to revitalize small towns though. For manufacturing and tech, it's much easier to find skilled workers in cities and machines are a lot cheaper than unskilled workers. For service jobs, well, you need a population center to provide a good market.


Calli - Nov 10, 2016 5:49:27 am PST #1700 of 30002
I must obey the inscrutable exhortations of my soul—Calvin and Hobbs

I'm glad your family's feeling fairly ok, Kalshane.


Jesse - Nov 10, 2016 5:51:30 am PST #1701 of 30002
Sometimes I trip on how happy we could be.

Hate makes you stupid. That's the big lesson from this election.

Yoda is still right: "Fear is the path to the dark side. Fear leads to anger. Anger leads to hate. Hate leads to suffering."

I had just decided that self-care for me means stopping the non-stop carb fest of the past few days when my coworker brought in an ENORMOUS bag of candy!


Steph L. - Nov 10, 2016 5:53:08 am PST #1702 of 30002
Unusually and exceedingly peculiar and altogether quite impossible to describe

One of my white male friends posted on FB this morning that Clinton supporters need to find common ground with Trump supporters and reach out in love "because we all want the same thing." Yanno, I'm not obligated to find common ground with people who voted for a ticket that dehumanizes me and damn near everyone I love. And we DON'T all want the same thing; the election made that abundantly clear.

It is the rankest privilege to tell Clinton supporters to find common ground with people who want to literally kill them.


-t - Nov 10, 2016 5:55:43 am PST #1703 of 30002
I am a woman of various inclinations and only some of the time are they to burn everything down in frustration

I wish the BBC Miss Marple were streamable somewhere.

You might try pbs streams of Mystery (Masterpiece Mystery, I think they call it now?), at least some Miss Marple may be available through that.

Hate makes you stupid.

I wish we didn't keep getting taught this lesson.

I'm just so afraid of what "taking back our country" is going to mean. Like, physical fight-or-flight reaction afraid.


-t - Nov 10, 2016 5:57:22 am PST #1704 of 30002
I am a woman of various inclinations and only some of the time are they to burn everything down in frustration

I'm so curious what Trump supporters who are not self-identified white supremacists think they were voting for. Wait, no, not curious, more just recognizing I don't know and can't imagine.