My food is problematic.

River ,'The Message'


Natter 75: More Than a Million Natters Served  

Off-topic discussion. Wanna talk about corsets, duct tape, butt kicking, or physics? This is the place. Detailed discussion of any current-season TV must be whitefonted.


Amy - Aug 20, 2017 5:26:07 pm PDT #15614 of 30002
Because books.

I think in general it's just kind of scummy to promote yourself as an enlightened feminist and be cheating -- serially -- on your wife, and (probably) taking advantage of your position with young women who know you can advance their careers.


Connie Neil - Aug 20, 2017 6:00:36 pm PDT #15615 of 30002
brillig

I thought I heard a rumor about Joss and Charisma carpenter.


WindSparrow - Aug 20, 2017 7:27:13 pm PDT #15616 of 30002
Love is stronger than death and harder than sorrow. Those who practice it are fierce like the light of stars traveling eons to pierce the night.

I just got instructed that I need more friends of different backgrounds and lineages by a member of Daniel's extended family so I get a better perspective on things. Apparently my insistence on supporting the wanton destruction of history via the removal of monuments to traitorous losers means I'm part of the problem - misuse of white privilege.


Consuela - Aug 20, 2017 7:36:09 pm PDT #15617 of 30002
We are Buffistas. This isn't our first apocalypse. -- Pix

Apparently my insistence on supporting the wanton destruction of history via the removal of monuments to traitorous losers means I'm part of the problem - misuse of white privilege.

... what? That does not compute to me.


Vortex - Aug 20, 2017 8:08:58 pm PDT #15618 of 30002
"Cry havoc and let slip the boobs of war!" -- Miracleman

I just got instructed that I need more friends of different backgrounds and lineages by a member of Daniel's extended family so I get a better perspective on things.

Can I come visit? grins wickedly


Laura - Aug 21, 2017 2:16:29 am PDT #15619 of 30002
Our wings are not tired.

Oh that is funny, Andi. Sorry, but I just snorted reading that. It has been a bit of a challenge this week in the midst of various friends and family, but I have successfully avoided any political screaming matches involving me punching clueless idiots that blindly support dangerous and bigoted agendas talk. My ability to change topic is one of my superpowers.


Matt the Bruins fan - Aug 21, 2017 3:28:17 am PDT #15620 of 30002
"I remember when they eventually introduced that drug kingpin who murdered people and smuggled drugs inside snakes and I was like 'Finally. A normal person.'” —RahvinDragand

It's the likelihood that he was taking advantage of his position with cast members and fans that goes over that line for me.

I'll withhold judgement on that unless I hear a complaint from any of his former employees about being pressured into having sex.


Jesse - Aug 21, 2017 3:44:47 am PDT #15621 of 30002
Sometimes I trip on how happy we could be.

I draw the line further back than that, since young actresses, staff members, or fans might feel like it's an honor, or at least an opportunity, and I hold the older/more powerful/married person to a higher standard of refraining from taking advantage of those opportunities. That's true in any case, but ESPECIALLY someone who has built his career on being a feminist.


Steph L. - Aug 21, 2017 3:51:14 am PDT #15622 of 30002
this mess was yours / now your mess is mine

I'll withhold judgement on that unless I hear a complaint from any of his former employees about being pressured into having sex.

It's not like he would have to overtly pressure them like some leering Snidely Whiplash, when we're talking about an industry with an inexhaustible supply of young women hoping to have a successful acting career (or even just get their foot in the door). When a man who can literally make or break someone's career is putting the moves on a young woman, that is a GROSS abuse of power.


Amy - Aug 21, 2017 4:12:17 am PDT #15623 of 30002
Because books.

There's also no excuse more disgusting than claiming, "But societal pressures made me sleep with all the women!" Come on.