Sooner or later, you're gonna want it. And the second — the second — that happens, you know I'll be there. I'll slip in, have myself a real good day.

Spike ,'Conversations with Dead People'


Natter 75: More Than a Million Natters Served  

Off-topic discussion. Wanna talk about corsets, duct tape, butt kicking, or physics? This is the place. Detailed discussion of any current-season TV must be whitefonted.


Jesse - Aug 11, 2017 2:54:28 am PDT #15192 of 30002
Sometimes I trip on how happy we could be.

Yeah, I can't quite believe that.


Jesse - Aug 11, 2017 2:54:43 am PDT #15193 of 30002
Sometimes I trip on how happy we could be.

I'm sorry he's in pain, at any rate.


Sophia Brooks - Aug 11, 2017 3:04:38 am PDT #15194 of 30002
Cats to become a rabbit should gather immediately now here

That would be BS, not NS. I am going to talk to a palliative care nurse I know at work to see if she has any insight. I get they might need assistive lifting for him, but instead they send him home with my tiny aunt?


Laura - Aug 11, 2017 3:04:54 am PDT #15195 of 30002
Our wings are not tired.

Yay for safe kitty! My sister's dog went "missing" a couple days ago. We were taking a lunch break on her porch and decided we hadn't noticed Kelsey in a while so we called and called, and nothing. This is the mountains and she wanders some, so we weren't very concerned. I take a bag of stuff to my car and sister notices the dog's nose peaking out from under the porch stairs watching me. Still not a sound out of her in response to our calls. She had gone under the stairs and dug herself a nice comfy hole, but in doing so she piled the dirt up blocking her exit route. We dug her out. Pets!

Yikes, Sophia. That doesn't seem right at all. I hope he gets quality help soon.


Sue - Aug 11, 2017 3:11:14 am PDT #15196 of 30002
hip deep in pie

Sophia, that sounds like total BS. I mean 200 pounds for a man of a certain height isn't an extreme weight. I hope your aunt gets and accepts some help.


Steph L. - Aug 11, 2017 3:42:15 am PDT #15197 of 30002
this mess was yours / now your mess is mine

Pain is not what palliative care is about

Wait, what the SHIT??? That's not true at all. Patients in palliative care no longer receive treatment for their specific illness (cancer patients no longer receive chemotherapy or radiation, for instance), but the whole point of palliative care is to focus on quality of life and ensuring that the patient is comfortable, which includes pain management. Literally, there are published guidelines about how to assess and manage pain in patients receiving palliative care.

If your uncle isn't receiving pain management, which might mean opioids, he needs a different health care provider NOW. And also, the weight limit thing for hospice care is bullshit and might also mean he needs a different health care provider ASAP.

Please let me know if I can research anything for you. He shouldn't have to be in pain right now. That is cruel and unconscionable.


Gudanov - Aug 11, 2017 4:05:13 am PDT #15198 of 30002
Coding and Sleeping

Lots of housing~ma for you, quester.


Consuela - Aug 11, 2017 5:12:46 am PDT #15199 of 30002
We are Buffistas. This isn't our first apocalypse. -- Pix

Sophia, that sounds wrong. I hope you can help get it straightened out.

I'm taking half a day off today to get a haircut and clean my house before some friends arrive tomorrow. Gonna be a busy weekend...


Sophia Brooks - Aug 11, 2017 5:14:50 am PDT #15200 of 30002
Cats to become a rabbit should gather immediately now here

Wait, what the SHIT??? That's not true at all. Patients in palliative care no longer receive treatment for their specific illness (cancer patients no longer receive chemotherapy or radiation, for instance), but the whole point of palliative care is to focus on quality of life and ensuring that the patient is comfortable, which includes pain management. Literally, there are published guidelines about how to assess and manage pain in patients receiving palliative care.

That was kind of my reaction too! I worked on an ENd of Life nusrsing certification program. Part of my problem is I am getting information from my aunt to my mom to me, so a) I am not sure my mom is translating right and b) I am not sure what the drs/nurses are actually saying to my aunt/uncle. My aunt has said several times that thye are of the generation that the doctors just told you one to do, and they keep being offered choices. SO maybe the hospice in their rural community doesn't have a Hoyer, but there could be an option of hospice elsewhere, but they said no or didn't understand.

ETA- and my mom keeps telling me it is nosy/bossy/rude to contact my aunt directly.


Nora Deirdre - Aug 11, 2017 5:27:35 am PDT #15201 of 30002
I’m responsible for my own happiness? I can’t even be responsible for my own breakfast! (Bojack Horseman)

Guys, I'm actually starting to get worried about this thing with N. Korea. It's like two petulant children with access to nuclear weapons without anyone checking them.