Riley: Oh, yeah. Sorry 'bout last time. Heard I missed out on some fun. Xander: Oh yeah, fun was had. Also frolic, merriment and near-death hijinks.

'Never Leave Me'


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Fiona - Jul 28, 2017 5:36:56 am PDT #14557 of 30002

That's fantastic, thank you Gud. Wow, 45 wasn't kidding when he said it was complicated. It might be the most accurate thing he's ever said!

I read something recently about why Americans have an aversion to state-sponsored healthcare; individualism and pioneer spirit and all that. But of course some people have to pay more and may not take as much out. That's how insurance works!


Gudanov - Jul 28, 2017 5:38:01 am PDT #14558 of 30002
Coding and Sleeping

Sorry about all the typos. I was trying to be quick.


Fiona - Jul 28, 2017 5:39:33 am PDT #14559 of 30002

Yeah, uncertainty sucks. (I know whereof I speak, I've been in Brexit-induced limbo for the past year with no end in sight).


Gudanov - Jul 28, 2017 5:48:54 am PDT #14560 of 30002
Coding and Sleeping

I do think it's important to reiterate that most people have either employer-based insurance or Medicare/Medicaid government insurance.

It always seems a little weird to me that there is so much drama over a pretty small part of the health-care system.


Gudanov - Jul 28, 2017 5:51:51 am PDT #14561 of 30002
Coding and Sleeping

Wow, 45 wasn't kidding when he said it was complicated.

Yeah, it's crazy complicated and the rhetoric can be really misleading. The Republicans mostly complain about the exchanges, but the real target is usually Medicaid since there is more money there.


Laura - Jul 28, 2017 5:59:47 am PDT #14562 of 30002
Our wings are not tired.

I do think it's important to reiterate that most people have either employer-based insurance or Medicare/Medicaid government insurance.

And for those of us that don't, it is insanely expensive, with huge deductibles, and about everything isn't covered.


Dana - Jul 28, 2017 6:02:30 am PDT #14563 of 30002
I haven't trusted science since I saw the film "Flubber."

And when your source of insurance (along with your family's insurance) is your employer, you don't dare lose your job.


Gudanov - Jul 28, 2017 6:10:55 am PDT #14564 of 30002
Coding and Sleeping

Yeah. I'd really like to go with single-payer or at least allow Medicare/Medicaid buy-in. I think the benefits for entrepreneurs would be tremendous and it would give people more flexibility.

At the least I'd like to have a program where you could get Medicaid for a period of time after losing a job. (Maybe paying for it above a certain previous income and a limit on how often you can get it)


SuziQ - Jul 28, 2017 6:17:53 am PDT #14565 of 30002
Back tattoos of the mother is that you are absolutely right - Ame

I do think it's important to reiterate that most people have...employer-based insurance

It is still insanely expensive, with huge deductibles, and there is so much that still isn't covered.


Toddson - Jul 28, 2017 6:22:23 am PDT #14566 of 30002
Friends don't let friends read "Atlas Shrugged"

Thanks for the explanation Gud - you've laid it out very clearly.

One side effect is that the number of people declaring bankruptcy because of having to pay medical bills has plummeted. And one of the problems with pre-Obamacare insurance policies was that people would pay their premiums but when they went to use insurance discovered that it didn't really cover anything. It would be cheap, but useless.