River: They weren't cows inside. They were waiting to be, but they forgot. Now they see the sky and they remember what they are. Mal: Is it bad that what she said made perfect sense to me?

'Safe'


Natter 75: More Than a Million Natters Served  

Off-topic discussion. Wanna talk about corsets, duct tape, butt kicking, or physics? This is the place. Detailed discussion of any current-season TV must be whitefonted.


Laura - Jun 20, 2017 5:15:40 am PDT #12846 of 30002
Our wings are not tired.

There is a balance of getting what we want and being a shitbag to people we care about. Because sometimes we want to do what is best for our loved ones. eta: You are not being a shitbag for being honest about being conflicted! I've certainly done things I didn't want to with a side of resentment because it was the right thing to do.

Anti-vax is crazy making. Reminder to self to make appt with vet for the first day I get to Otter Lake because vets here don't carry the Lyme vaccine and I don't want Zoe to go a day without it in the Adirondacks.

My former co-worker was one of the smartest and most capable people I ever worked with. Flat out brilliant, and she would go into a screaming rage at the thought of vaccinating her grandkids. Her daughter did it behind her back and we had to witness her meltdown. Super smart, and yet bought into every single conspiracy theory out there. Vaccines, chemtrails, 9-11, Kennedy, seriously, all of them. Don't understand why otherwise intelligent people fall into this weirdness.


Amy - Jun 20, 2017 5:25:38 am PDT #12847 of 30002
Because books.

I hope on Sunday you are showered with things you do want, and only things that make you deliriously, deliciously happy, Tep. Grown-up life really sucks sometimes.


-t - Jun 20, 2017 5:36:45 am PDT #12848 of 30002
I am a woman of various inclinations and only some of the time are they to burn everything down in frustration

The greatness of the Teppy is indeed such that, should her day be clouded or besmirched by such travails as grief or family caretaking, it must needs overflow onto one or more other days in order for the celebration as suits one so fantabulous. And we shall all rejoice, for the greatness of the Teppy is also a joy in our lives and any and every chance to celebrate her a happy one.

TRUTH

Getting what I want, even if it's my birthday, seems irrelevant.

It's not, though. It may not be possible, but you can still want what you want, and be disappointed that you can't have it. Your feelings can be about you and not everyone else.


Zenkitty - Jun 20, 2017 5:45:10 am PDT #12849 of 30002
Every now and then, I think I might actually be a little odd.

Steph, did you tell Tim how you're feeling and what you want? Because you know your delightful man will be happy to shower you with candy and kittens and make your time-shifted birthday special.


Laura - Jun 20, 2017 5:48:04 am PDT #12850 of 30002
Our wings are not tired.

t may not be possible, but you can still want what you want, and be disappointed that you can't have it. Your feelings can be about you and not everyone else.

Well said!


Steph L. - Jun 20, 2017 6:08:05 am PDT #12851 of 30002
this mess was yours / now your mess is mine

Steph, did you tell Tim how you're feeling and what you want? Because you know your delightful man will be happy to shower you with candy and kittens and make your time-shifted birthday special.

He was all "funerals aren't for the dead; they're for the living, family is important, etc., etc." and basically said I should go to the funeral despite me sobbing about how I feel like I'm being crushed under a huge burden. (And I don't want to make him sound like a monster here; he's just a huge "Yay family!" person, and wants to make sure that if I don't go, I won't regret it.) (Spoiler: I WON'T.)

And there is no way in hell I'm going to tell him I don't want to go to the Pride parade. It's super important to him and I'm not going to take that away from him. But it means that I have to go, too. (Look, this is Trump's America, in a conservative city, and while the actual Pride festival is safe, parking your car and walking X amount of blocks by yourself while looking like a man in a dress is NOT SAFE. If he goes to Pride, I go too. Shit is too scary right now to even consider otherwise.)

So, to answer your question...kind of? But also no?


Zenkitty - Jun 20, 2017 6:17:49 am PDT #12852 of 30002
Every now and then, I think I might actually be a little odd.

I meant, tell him you want your special day, too.

eta Because what you want is just as important as family things, and also you are family.


Steph L. - Jun 20, 2017 6:20:09 am PDT #12853 of 30002
this mess was yours / now your mess is mine

I meant, tell him you want your special day, too.

Well, he knows that. But that's not in the cards.


sj - Jun 20, 2017 6:27:06 am PDT #12854 of 30002
"There are few hours in life more agreeable than the hour dedicated to the ceremony known as afternoon tea."

I think Zen meant on another day.


Steph L. - Jun 20, 2017 6:31:59 am PDT #12855 of 30002
this mess was yours / now your mess is mine

Yeah, I am being rigid about my actual birthday, which is ridiculous as an adult, because stuff always coincides with it, even if it's just work (I always thought you should get the day off work for your birthday). I always think the actual date is important, but it's better for it to be a moving target.

So, yeah, I'm sure my birthday will get celebrated at some point.