Tracy: Well-- That call -- That call means you just murdered me. Mal: No, son. You murdered yourself. I just carried the bullet a while.

'The Message'


Natter 75: More Than a Million Natters Served  

Off-topic discussion. Wanna talk about corsets, duct tape, butt kicking, or physics? This is the place. Detailed discussion of any current-season TV must be whitefonted.


Jessica - Jun 12, 2017 7:18:15 am PDT #12580 of 30002
And then Ortus came and said "It's Ortin' time" and they all Orted off into the sunset

Was the opening number good?

It was ok? I felt like Kevin Spacey was trying too hard the whole night. The opening number was less awkward than his random impressions later in the show. (He came on once as Johnny Carson, once as Bill Clinton, and once as Frank Underwood, and it was all weird and uncomfortable.)


Steph L. - Jun 12, 2017 8:30:39 am PDT #12581 of 30002
this mess was yours / now your mess is mine

Unsurprisingly, the pie chart author continues to be the actual worst. We have standard data that needs to be included (boring shit like the dates that the study was conducted, the mean age of the patients, etc.). Her reply to every query like that is "That is unimportant and I will not provide it."

Normally the hapless freelance editor follows up and says, hey, this is standard information that the senior editors deemed important to include, so please provide it. But at this point, I'm throwing it in my coordinator's lap. He already knows that she is from hell, based on the pie chart saga, so he can make the judgment call of whether we can leave that stuff out or he can be the one to try to get the information from her.


Jessica - Jun 12, 2017 8:33:26 am PDT #12582 of 30002
And then Ortus came and said "It's Ortin' time" and they all Orted off into the sunset

Her reply to every query like that is "That is unimportant and I will not provide it."

Are you allowed to reply "Your paper is unimportant and I will not publish it"?


bennett - Jun 12, 2017 8:34:42 am PDT #12583 of 30002

Any idea why the PTB don't just pull the article? Surely they're not short on other articles to replace it.


-t - Jun 12, 2017 8:36:20 am PDT #12584 of 30002
I am a woman of various inclinations and only some of the time are they to burn everything down in frustration

I kinda want her to provide all the "unimportant" information in the form of pie charts. Just because that would make the story more entertaining.


Steph L. - Jun 12, 2017 8:49:57 am PDT #12585 of 30002
this mess was yours / now your mess is mine

Any idea why the PTB don't just pull the article? Surely they're not short on other articles to replace it.

I think they schedule the issues so that there's not much wiggle room to drop or add an article. Like, I'm still working on it, and it gets published in July. If they pull it, they have to come up with something to replace it, and they don't allow themselves that kind of margin. Which isn't my decision or technically my problem, except for when I have to deal with this bullshit at my level.


shrift - Jun 12, 2017 9:18:39 am PDT #12586 of 30002
"You can't put a price on the joy of not giving a shit." -Zenkitty

Oh, my god. Work. I'm going to be in a corner, quietly banging my head against a brick wall. There may be retail therapy later.

Her reply to every query like that is "That is unimportant and I will not provide it."

I kind of want to try responding to things like this just to see what would happen.


Steph L. - Jun 12, 2017 9:31:08 am PDT #12587 of 30002
this mess was yours / now your mess is mine

Her reply to every query like that is "That is unimportant and I will not provide it."

I kind of want to try responding to things like this just to see what would happen.

Right? When I get assigned an article to edit, I don't get to say "This is unimportant and I will not edit it." Which is SO what I should have done with this article. Sheesh.

This is where I feel like I need to mention, yet again, that 1 year ago we published an article written by President Obama about the ACA, and *he* wasn't a whiny little baby about being edited.


msbelle - Jun 12, 2017 9:32:59 am PDT #12588 of 30002
I remember the crazy days. 500 posts an hour. Nubmer! Natgbsb

I am literally falling asleep at my desk. There is work to do, but I am struggling to keep eyes open .


Laura - Jun 12, 2017 9:46:57 am PDT #12589 of 30002
Our wings are not tired.

"That is unimportant and I will not provide it."

This may be my new answer to many many requests.