Mal: You are very much lacking in imagination. Zoe: I imagine that's so, sir.

'Out Of Gas'


Natter 75: More Than a Million Natters Served  

Off-topic discussion. Wanna talk about corsets, duct tape, butt kicking, or physics? This is the place. Detailed discussion of any current-season TV must be whitefonted.


Atropa - May 15, 2017 9:26:10 am PDT #11452 of 30002
The artist formerly associated with cupcakes.

And in the "Am I being a lazy slacker, or is this depression/other brain chemical stuff" discussion: I have stuff to do for work. But after the back-to-back Disneyland and Vampire Ball events, I am so full of don'wanna. Tho' I suspect a good part of it is that I'm just really tired, and would like to go back to bed.


Amy - May 15, 2017 9:38:41 am PDT #11453 of 30002
Because books.

"Am I being a lazy slacker, or is this depression/other brain chemical stuff"

For me it's this, plus having too much to do sometimes, so I don't know where to begin. (Is that executive function stuff?)

And related to the dishwasher conversation, I literally just found two plates in ours, unrinsed, with General Tso's chicken sauce dried on them. Like those will ever come clean without someone at least rinsing and wiping them first. ::shakes fist at children::


Steph L. - May 15, 2017 9:50:02 am PDT #11454 of 30002
this mess was yours / now your mess is mine

I washed my dishes a little bit ago entirely because of this conversation.

Grumpy Aunt Louise is just going to have to live on the charity of family members, and she has to do it without Percocet or Neurontin.

Depending on the timeframe (up until early/mid-20th century), Grumpy Aunt Louise probably had access to laudanum, i.e. 10% opium tincture. She still probably was dependent on others to get stuff done, but she might not have cared so much.

Having laudanum would have helped a whole damn lot, but I am so grateful to be alive in the 21st century, because laudanum only deals with the pain, but it can't make you fully functional again like surgery does. Modern medicine is freaking amazing.

But, yeah, the current mindset of painkillers=bad due to the opioid abuse issue bothers me. Because we developed painkillers for good reasons—pain sucks and can ruin your life.

This is one of my huge soapboxes. Cincinnati has a big heroin problem, and the thing is, some addicts are patients with chronic pain who can't get painkillers from their doctors because modern medicine is also freaking stupid.


-t - May 15, 2017 9:54:25 am PDT #11455 of 30002
I am a woman of various inclinations and only some of the time are they to burn everything down in frustration

I alternate among thankfulness that I've come so far, frustration with what I'm still dealing with, and bitterness about how anxiety has affected every single aspect of my life to date.

With you on that, with ADHD and depression in place of anxiety. I can bounce between them pretty fast.

You are who thinks the thoughts, Connie. Which may or may not help, but it's something to think about. I rationally believe that there isn't really an "I" at the core of my being, but I don't emotionally feel it. But rationally thinking so can be a comfort.

Like those will ever come clean without someone at least rinsing and wiping them first.

Cascade Platinum, y'all. It's amazing.


-t - May 15, 2017 9:55:00 am PDT #11456 of 30002
I am a woman of various inclinations and only some of the time are they to burn everything down in frustration

Poor Aunt Louise.


Connie Neil - May 15, 2017 10:00:48 am PDT #11457 of 30002
brillig

Aunt Louise deserves a hug, but she'd probably wave her cane at us in annoyance.


-t - May 15, 2017 10:12:34 am PDT #11458 of 30002
I am a woman of various inclinations and only some of the time are they to burn everything down in frustration

I feel like she might enjoy a bit of trifle.


Amy - May 15, 2017 10:34:00 am PDT #11459 of 30002
Because books.

Or a hard candy.


smonster - May 15, 2017 10:37:28 am PDT #11460 of 30002
We won’t stop until everyone is gay.

I try telling myself that my thoughts aren't me, but I got into a nasty existential loop of "Well, then, who the hell am I?"

Buddhism says you are the awareness of the thoughts. Like, the thoughts are waves but you are the ocean. It takes time to internalize it (oh look, another lifelong process) but I find it helpful. Also labeling the kind of thought or emotion helps me get some separationsfrom it. Thank you, DBT.


-t - May 15, 2017 10:37:51 am PDT #11461 of 30002
I am a woman of various inclinations and only some of the time are they to burn everything down in frustration

Good call, Amy.

Oh happy day, between my 3% raise, increasing my W-4 allowances, and decreasing my 401k witholding, my semi-monthly take home pay is more than my mortgage payment! Not quite as much as mortgage payment + student loan payment (which unfortunately both hit in the first half of the month), but still, much better than it was.