Early: So is it still her room when it's empty? Does the room, the thing, have purpose? Or do we -- what's the word? Simon: I really can't help you. Early: The plan is to take your sister. Get the reward, which is substantial. 'Imbue.' That's the word.

'Objects In Space'


Natter 75: More Than a Million Natters Served  

Off-topic discussion. Wanna talk about corsets, duct tape, butt kicking, or physics? This is the place. Detailed discussion of any current-season TV must be whitefonted.


msbelle - May 01, 2017 12:46:30 pm PDT #10697 of 30002
I remember the crazy days. 500 posts an hour. Nubmer! Natgbsb

I left work before 10 and have been in bed since. Mostly asleep, but waking up with most work emails to make sure they did not need me to correct anything for closing.

Now mac is up and we have both had bowls of plain white rice to see how we do.


-t - May 01, 2017 12:46:46 pm PDT #10698 of 30002
I am a woman of various inclinations and only some of the time are they to burn everything down in frustration

I hope it helps, Dana.

However, they did not show how heavy the congestion was at the Swedish meatballs or cashiers.

Google Maps might.

ETA: And I hope the rice works out okay, msbelle. That sounds very like what I had a month ago, and that was miserable while it lasted but went away without appreciable drama.


bennett - May 01, 2017 1:09:54 pm PDT #10699 of 30002

Steph, one of the things I read when we were dealing with my grandfather is that caregivers have to keep in mind that people with dementia cannot learn any more - they cannot learn what is appropriate or not appropriate. That's not really helpful when they say something racist or sexist and you're sitting there trying to decide what to say/do. We've all got a knee-jerk response to correct their behavior, but they're not like kids with whom you have to teach what is and is not right.

I don't have any solutions, I'm afraid, but you have my deepest sympathies.


Steph L. - May 01, 2017 1:16:56 pm PDT #10700 of 30002
this mess was yours / now your mess is mine

Steph, one of the things I read when we were dealing with my grandfather is that caregivers have to keep in mind that people with dementia cannot learn any more - they cannot learn what is appropriate or not appropriate. That's not really helpful when they say something racist or sexist and you're sitting there trying to decide what to say/do. We've all got a knee-jerk response to correct their behavior, but they're not like kids with whom you have to teach what is and is not right.

At this point, I wouldn't expect Jack to retain new knowledge of "graphic comments about women = bad", but I feel like it's still appropriate to shut that line of conversation down and redirect it in the moment.

It's definitely clear that he can't learn/retain new knowledge, because literally every time he uses the bathroom, he's surprised at the catheter, and he wants to know why it's there. The boys brought a whiteboard for his room where we write down things he needs to know but won't remember, like if there's an upcoming doctor appointment, and who is taking him and what time, etc. I don't know how helpful it is.


Burrell - May 01, 2017 1:43:38 pm PDT #10701 of 30002
Why did Darth Vader cross the road? To get to the Dark Side!

Steph, I agree with Jesse that it is likely to get easier, at least for a bit, as his dementia progresses. But I've learned there's a LOT of variables when it comes to dementia, so I try not to predict what folks will come across. My mom's symptoms were not at all common: she had an aphasia, so she really couldn't speak much, and aboulia, which meant she wasn't really able to act on her own behalf, someone else had to initiate most of her activities.

I think the support group would be good, esp if family is still adjusting to all of this.

Sending lots of strength and love


Burrell - May 01, 2017 1:46:27 pm PDT #10702 of 30002
Why did Darth Vader cross the road? To get to the Dark Side!

White board sounds very helpful, at least for the staff, but for him as well if he is still able to read. And redirection seems like the right choice too, since yeah, not likely to stop himself.


Steph L. - May 01, 2017 1:49:53 pm PDT #10703 of 30002
this mess was yours / now your mess is mine

He can still read, and gets the newspaper every day. He doesn't really retain much -- like, he'll remember he read something about Northside and tell us that Northside was in the paper again, but he can't remember what the article said -- but he does read it. I don't think the whiteboard will make things stick in his memory, but as long as it's in his line of sight, it'll keep calling important things to his attention.


Sheryl - May 01, 2017 2:03:02 pm PDT #10704 of 30002
Fandom means never having to say "But where would I wear that?"

Timelies all!

Gary got up at 5 this morning to catch a flight. Yep, another business trip. Meanwhile, Mr. S is shoving books between my back and the back of my chair.(when he's not hitting me with stuff) Sigh...


sumi - May 01, 2017 2:07:43 pm PDT #10705 of 30002
Art Crawl!!!

Liese - so sorry about Sea Biscuit.


-t - May 01, 2017 2:08:41 pm PDT #10706 of 30002
I am a woman of various inclinations and only some of the time are they to burn everything down in frustration

{{{Liese}}} I'm sorry to hear Seabiscuit is gone, but I know he had a wonderful life with you.