And now my boy's in love. All hearts and flowers. But, doesn't it freak you out that she used to change your diapers? I mean, when you think about it, the first woman you boned is the closest thing you've ever had to a mother. Doing your mom and trying to kill your dad. Hm. There should be a play.

Angelus ,'Damage'


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sumi - Nov 01, 2021 7:44:35 pm PDT #3057 of 3424
Art Crawl!!!

The second comes out October 2023.

I watched & of the three Dune adaptations, I think this is the best one. The Lynch one was pretty but kind of bombastic & BIG & still didn’t do the job. Very, very 80’s. I don’t remember Sci/Fy’s tv version: how good could it have been.

So, it was pretty, and not terrible, but there has got to be a really good adaptation out there, somewhere.


Jessica - Nov 02, 2021 8:41:32 am PDT #3058 of 3424
If I want to become a cloud of bats, does each bat need a separate vaccination?

After seeing it again with Javachik, I can appreciate how well Villeneuve truly adapted the material, rather than simply putting the book onscreen. Herbert prioritizes context and backstory to the point where probably 70% of the book is characters thinking in italics about What That Thing Really Means And How The Last 8000 Years Have Led Us To This Point, and it honestly never occurred to me that you could just...not do that.

The Lynch version completely takes for granted that all of the backstory and context were critical because Frank Herbert said they were, and I still think that version feels more like reading the book, but I'm glad we get to have both.

(I also can't remember anything about the SyFy version, except that the effects were terrible like all VFX on TV in that era.)

The two things that did continue to bother me:
1. PUT YOUR DAMN MASKS ON, FREMEN
2. In the book, there is a LOT of interior monologuing. And in the Lynch version you can hear people thinking by having the actor look into the middle distance with their thoughts on slightly echo-y voiceover. Cheesy, but whatever. And in this version, Villeneuve decided he was just going to have all the characters say their thoughts OUT LOUD muttering under their breath? WTF? Do you think Paul can't hear you, Kynes? He is literally standing two feet in front of your face.


dcp - Nov 02, 2021 10:07:15 am PDT #3059 of 3424
The more I learn, the more I realize how little I know.

How far through the book does the movie get?


Jessica - Dec 23, 2021 6:48:01 am PST #3060 of 3424
If I want to become a cloud of bats, does each bat need a separate vaccination?

So it turns out The Matrix Resurrections is a love letter SPECIFICALLY TO ME and validates ALL OF MY FEELINGS about the sequels. It is a perfect movie and I want to smish its perfect little movie face and then give it a kiss on the nose.


Jessica - Dec 23, 2021 6:50:21 am PST #3061 of 3424
If I want to become a cloud of bats, does each bat need a separate vaccination?

(Going way back because apparently you asked me a question a month ago and I ignored you like an asshole? Sorry!)

How far through the book does the movie get?

Dune 1 ends with Paul and Jessica going with Stilgar to Sietch Tabr after the fight with Jamis.


Laura - Dec 23, 2021 6:55:01 am PST #3062 of 3424
Our wings are not tired.

That is most excellent news about Matrix. I have a serious love of the first one and didn't want to risk damage to my affections.


Jessica - Dec 23, 2021 7:26:46 am PST #3063 of 3424
If I want to become a cloud of bats, does each bat need a separate vaccination?

If you are a fan of the first one but not the sequels then Resurrections is probably not for you. Which is okay because it's for me and I will love it enough for all of us.


Laura - Dec 23, 2021 7:45:28 am PST #3064 of 3424
Our wings are not tired.

I really loved them all! But the first one is my greatest love. Just a big ole Matrix fangirl.


-t - Dec 23, 2021 8:18:36 am PST #3065 of 3424
I am a woman of various inclinations and only some of the time are they to burn everything down in frustration

I’m glad to have that preparation, Jess. And I’m happy for you!


-t - Jan 02, 2022 8:10:50 pm PST #3066 of 3424
I am a woman of various inclinations and only some of the time are they to burn everything down in frustration

Ok, watched Matrix Resurrections today and it was awesome! For context, I did not love 2&3, but this one totally worked for me.