Yeah, I haven't bothered with any of the JJA Treks after the first. The cast is phenomenal and I appreciate them using a very Trekkian alternate timeline explanation to prevent overwriting the existing universe, but the whole plot makes zero sense and breaks just about every rule of how the Star Trek universe works. It's a fun movie if you ignore all the nonsense but it's a terrible version of Star Trek.
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Kalshane - Aug 18, 2020 12:06:58 pm PDT #2782 of 3455
GS: If you had to choose between kicking evil in the head or the behind, which would you choose, and why?
Minsc: I'm not sure I understand the question. I have two feet, do I not? You do not take a small plate when the feast of evil welcomes seconds.
Toddson - Aug 18, 2020 12:22:30 pm PDT #2783 of 3455
Friends don't let friends read "Atlas Shrugged"
I haven't seen any of these but it occurred to me - did he stick to the old error of having audible explosions in space?
Zenkitty - Aug 18, 2020 12:22:58 pm PDT #2784 of 3455
Every now and then, I think I might actually be a little odd.
It's a fun movie if you ignore all the nonsense but it's a terrible version of Star Trek.
My feelings exactly. It's a fun, kinda dumb SF movie. It is not Star Trek. It's acceptable as an alternate universe very very far removed from the original timeline, only because the names are the same and I really like this version of McCoy.
JJA should've done Star Wars instead. He didn't grok Trek even a little bit.
Steph L. - Aug 18, 2020 12:27:11 pm PDT #2785 of 3455
Unusually and exceedingly peculiar and altogether quite impossible to describe
JJA should've done Star Wars instead.
Did he do Rise of Skywalker? I honestly can't even remember.
Dana - Aug 18, 2020 12:27:41 pm PDT #2786 of 3455
"I'm useless alone." // "We're all useless alone. It's a good thing you're not alone."
He did Force Awakens and Rise of Skywalker.
amych - Aug 18, 2020 12:45:44 pm PDT #2787 of 3455
Now let us crush something soft and watch it fountain blood. That is a girlish thing to want to do, yes?
And those proved he grokked star wars about as much.
Consuela - Aug 18, 2020 12:55:02 pm PDT #2788 of 3455
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And those proved he grokked star wars about as much
As disappointed as I was in those movies, I felt less offended by them, because Star Wars never really tried to be real science fiction. But Trek is SF: the original series hired honest science fiction writers, both for the episodes and the tie-in novels. Yes, it had its howlers (there's a barrier around the galaxy! Spock's brain has been stolen!), but they did try.
Abrams can't be bothered to even try. It's not like they couldn't have come up with some other reason the ship was in danger, that didn't require them outrunning a black hole.
Kalshane - Aug 18, 2020 1:05:54 pm PDT #2789 of 3455
GS: If you had to choose between kicking evil in the head or the behind, which would you choose, and why?
Minsc: I'm not sure I understand the question. I have two feet, do I not? You do not take a small plate when the feast of evil welcomes seconds.
I've come to the conclusion the JJ is excellent at casting (Alias, Lost, New Trek and Episodes 7-9 of Star Wars have fantastic casts) good at directing and absolutely terrible at writing plots.
Zenkitty - Aug 18, 2020 1:09:12 pm PDT #2790 of 3455
Every now and then, I think I might actually be a little odd.
What Consuela said.
I'd actually forgotten JJA did the Star Wars . But I don't honestly care much about the Star Wars franchise.
Kalshane - Aug 18, 2020 1:11:30 pm PDT #2791 of 3455
GS: If you had to choose between kicking evil in the head or the behind, which would you choose, and why?
Minsc: I'm not sure I understand the question. I have two feet, do I not? You do not take a small plate when the feast of evil welcomes seconds.
I really like this version of McCoy.
I think I've said this before, but Karl Urban is easily one of my favorite genre actors right now. I pretty much love him in everything he's in (though I haven't watched The Boys yet because I'm not sure it's really my style).
There's rumors that Paramount wants to do another Star Trek movie with the current cast but without JJ. I'd love to see what a director that actually understands Star Trek could do with these people.