We watched the JJA Star Trek movie this week with my nephews (who have never seen any ST). And I'm still seriously pissed off about the bullshit ending. Between the nonsensical way they "escape a collapsing black hole" and then they have Kirk jump five ranks from Cadet to Captain! ARGH.

At best, Kirk should have been forgiven for cheating and the insubordination, and then, upon graduation, gotten a plum gig as a junior officer on a ship that would give him lots of command experience. But nobody in their right mind gives an ENSIGN command of a vessel with 400+ people on board.

... still angry.

Also JJA has no idea how big space is: that whole movie took place in like 36 hours, including going from Earth to Vulcan and then chasing Nero back to Earth. Nonsense!

Rargh.

In The Force Awakens, JJA seemed to believe that people one one planet could look up in the sky and see another full-sized planet being destroyed. Never mind the gravitational effects of another planet being THAT CLOSE in the first place.

Clearly JJ has the same respect for military protocol as he does for astronomical distances.

Yeah, I haven't bothered with any of the JJA Treks after the first. The cast is phenomenal and I appreciate them using a very Trekkian alternate timeline explanation to prevent overwriting the existing universe, but the whole plot makes zero sense and breaks just about every rule of how the Star Trek universe works. It's a fun movie if you ignore all the nonsense but it's a terrible version of Star Trek.

I haven't seen any of these but it occurred to me - did he stick to the old error of having audible explosions in space?

It's a fun movie if you ignore all the nonsense but it's a terrible version of Star Trek.

My feelings exactly. It's a fun, kinda dumb SF movie. It is not Star Trek. It's acceptable as an alternate universe very very far removed from the original timeline, only because the names are the same and I really like this version of McCoy.

JJA should've done Star Wars instead. He didn't grok Trek even a little bit.

JJA should've done Star Wars instead.

Did he do Rise of Skywalker? I honestly can't even remember.

He did Force Awakens and Rise of Skywalker.

And those proved he grokked star wars about as much.

And those proved he grokked star wars about as much

As disappointed as I was in those movies, I felt less offended by them, because Star Wars never really tried to be real science fiction. But Trek is SF: the original series hired honest science fiction writers, both for the episodes and the tie-in novels. Yes, it had its howlers (there's a barrier around the galaxy! Spock's brain has been stolen!), but they did try.

Abrams can't be bothered to even try. It's not like they couldn't have come up with some other reason the ship was in danger, that didn't require them outrunning a black hole.