Too true, Vonnie!
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When the Ben/Rey kiss then death happened, I actually muttered, "Time to avoid the internet!"
I haven't seen any of the shipper wars that I'm sure are out there, but I'm willing to bet they're NASTY.
I haven't seen anything either, but if it had to happen, I'm perfectly fine with the way it happened. The Kylo/Rey people can fix it without much effort at all, and for those of us who don't care, he's gone.
And frankly, that's how I feel about the redemption as a whole. I wish they'd felt like they could tell another story, but if they had to go with it, I'm okay with the way it was done.
From what I can see from the corner of my non-involvement in SW fandom, the Reylo shippers are pretty gutted. Whereas I'm like, the dude got way longer and more complete a redemption arc than Vader... and I can't believe you guys expected him to live after that. He's done too many heinous things for that to stand. As someone who loved the Rey/Kylo dynamic without at all expecting any kind of HEA, this is as good as one could have expected. The dude was so gone over her, he poured his life force into her to BRING HER BACK FROM THE DEAD. I mean, how much more romantic could you get?? But no, people still want their schmoopy happy ending, even though this particular ending for the character has been telegraphed forever.
On the other side of the spectrum, I've seen some folks spitting mad that Rey lowered herself enough to kiss a mass murderer. I mean, I love the character, warts and all, but you can't really find fault with that position either? *shrugs* Equal unhappiness all around!
We did not get a lot of redeemed!Kylo, but Adam Driver is a good enough actor that you could see him *carrying* himself differently after his turn. Some of the mannerisms while he was fighting Knights of Ren was downright Han Solo-esque. In a way, I feel like Kylo/Ben got a more complete character arc than Rey did, which I am slightly bummed about.
Oh, Vonnie, I do wish you had a dedicated review place because your insight and nuanced critiques into film are very fine.
Aww, thanks David. I guess I can say something on Dreamwidth which I haven't updated *goes off to check* in, uh, a year and a half. Maybe.
I feel like talking about Star Wars on the internet has turned into such a hot button thing -- people feel so strongly, especially about TLJ and this one, and most people are WAY less chill about things compared to Buffistas. I'm just tired of people being angry about things, mostly. A piece of art appeals to different people for different reasons. Nothing to be gained by yelling about how some random person in the internet has trash taste just because they don't love/hate the exact same things you do.
Film Crit Hulk is exhausted of dunking on JJ Abrams.
I really loved the main plot of TROS...when it was the plot of Alias S3 fifteen years ago. JJ, you can't just swap out a glowing red ball for a glowing green pyramid and expect us not to notice.
Was very annoyed by the sidelining of Rose, and the pointless introduction of One Heterosexual Female Each for Poe and Finn.
I still remember Vonnie on Livejournal as an arbiter of Pacey/Joey fanfic. man, I am old!
I still remember Vonnie on Livejournal as an arbiter of Pacey/Joey fanfic. man, I am old!
Speaking of which did you just see that Pacey got married? By which I mean Joshua Jackson.
Also, she's expecting.