Howards End is more than that. Fairly critical look at the wealthy while still presenting them as human. Really none of the characters are simplistic, even the ones I disliked. Class and society are examined without it being too heavy handed. There are no real answers, just observations.

I loved Howard's End. Good book, too.

I remember enjoying Howard's End when it came out. Then again, I was in a different place mentally and politically at the time.

I think this is one of those films that EVERYONE was talking about and I had not seen it and then the more it became a thing, the less I wanted to see it.

That's how I feel about Titanic. I still haven't seen it. And, costume porn aside (I love that period in clothes), I'm still ok about not seeing it.

Jesse, SAME! Us was great.

Us was fantastic! Upped the scare factor and the thinkiness from Get Out, and that was a high bar.

I highly recommend the podcast Unspooled

Thanks for the podcast rec, Megan. I listened to their 3 (!) Oscar specials and laughed a ton. The two hosts have great chemistry and opinionated in a fun, not obnoxious way. Looking forward to listening to their take on various AFI 100 films!

I love Howards End but not as much as I love some of the smaller Merchant & Ivory films -- A Room with A View and The Remains of the Day remain my all time faves. The book has one of my all-time fave literacy passages (the "Only Connect..." bit, which may now come across as hackneyed but never fails to pack a punch for me.) That reminds me to finish watching the recent BBC adaptation of the book, with Hayley Atwell as Margaret (which is AMAZING casting) and Matthew MacFadyen as Henry Wilcox. I watched the first ep, and... I think my reluctance to continue may be due to my fondness for MacFadyen (loved him since his MI-5 days) and not wanting to see him as Henry fucking Wilcox, who is THE WOOOOORST.

Cereal:

I basically want to spend all day reading articles about Us

I have read several articles and am still not quite sure what the central metaphor is. Or maybe it's supposed to be open to interpretation, sort of like Annihilation? I rather like that, the elasticity of it all, but I would imagine folks who need concrete, logical answers to puzzles would hate it. I found it gorgeous and thinky and thrilling at any rate, and the performances were dynamite, esp. Lupita Nyong'o's.

One of the most interesting, slightly critical pieces of writing on it comes from Tasha Robinson at the Verge (assume ALL the spoilers): [link] I totally see where she's coming from, although I was bothered less by it. I think the text is rich either way.

Yeah, Vonnie. It's funny, but I basically decided to stop trying to figure Us out but still keep thinking about it!

I also just listened to my first ep of unspooled and also really enjoyed it. I listed to The French Connection ep since I just finished with my 1972 Oscar Watch. I agreed with so much of their observations and opinions.

I found it gorgeous and thinky and thrilling at any rate, and the performances were dynamite, esp. Lupita Nyong'o's.

On this point, there was recent Twitter discussion on which film comedy performances were Oscar worthy (but overlooked because the Oscars rarely reward comedy).

I'm thinking it would be cool to have a similar discussion about performances in horror movies.