Hey, evil dead, you're in my seat.

Xander ,'First Date'


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Matt the Bruins fan - Dec 27, 2017 3:15:18 pm PST #1235 of 3463
"I remember when they eventually introduced that drug kingpin who murdered people and smuggled drugs inside snakes and I was like 'Finally. A normal person.'” —RahvinDragand

Well, Vice Admiral Holdo called him out as well, and Leia actually stun-blasted him during his mutiny. But it never felt like the narrative was presenting him as being in the wrong, at least until the very end when the Resistance had been whittled down to a medium-sized dinner party's worth of people. He was more the loose cannon cowboy cop who's usually proven correct to have chafed under the police chief's by-the-book restrictions.


Jessica - Dec 28, 2017 4:58:55 am PST #1236 of 3463
And then Ortus came and said "It's Ortin' time" and they all Orted off into the sunset

I disagree about Poe not being called on it. Leia demotes him, Holdo dismisses him, then he spends the next 18 hours avoiding her so he won't get caught, then Leia stuns him so he can't do any more damage. And yeah, we've all been trained to expect that guy to save the day (and he's one of our POV characters and he thinks he's right all the time), but I don't think the narrative is ever really on his side.


-t - Dec 28, 2017 5:54:39 am PST #1237 of 3463
I am a woman of various inclinations and only some of the time are they to burn everything down in frustration

Agree with Jess. We, the audience, get carried along with him as he learns that he's in the wrong because we're so conditioned to expect the loose-cannon-saves-the-day arc. It's a nifty trick.


Kalshane - Dec 28, 2017 7:57:05 am PST #1238 of 3463
GS: If you had to choose between kicking evil in the head or the behind, which would you choose, and why? Minsc: I'm not sure I understand the question. I have two feet, do I not? You do not take a small plate when the feast of evil welcomes seconds.

Poe still ends up getting a lot of people dead and doesn't really show any remorse for it, but on reflection I will agree he doesn't get a pass, either, and actually learns something by the end.

There's a bunch of griping online about Holdo not letting Poe in on the plan and that it's her fault the transports get blown up because of this, but they seem to conveniently forget that Poe kept his own plan secret from her. If keeping secrets is bad (and I agree that she didn't owe him an explanation anyway) then Poe is just as guilty.


Kalshane - Dec 28, 2017 8:04:40 am PST #1239 of 3463
GS: If you had to choose between kicking evil in the head or the behind, which would you choose, and why? Minsc: I'm not sure I understand the question. I have two feet, do I not? You do not take a small plate when the feast of evil welcomes seconds.

I will say I thought it was a great character moment that when Hux found Kylo Ren possibly dead his first thought was to blast him just to be sure (until Kylo woke up and he noped right back out of that plan.)


WindSparrow - Dec 28, 2017 8:29:17 am PST #1240 of 3463
Love is stronger than death and harder than sorrow. Those who practice it are fierce like the light of stars traveling eons to pierce the night.

All those complainers have totally bought into the narrative of the loose-cannon-saves-the-day trope and zero concept of military standards of conduct. Admirals do not explain things to insubordinate captains. In a military context, when a higher-up explains something to you it is because they believe you need that information to carry out your duties and orders OR because they are grooming you for greater leadership roles and teaching you what they know. Since Leia and Holdo had recent evidence that Poe was not meant for Greater Things and his current duties included getting off the bridge to let the grownups talk, Holdo owed him zero explanation.


Atropa - Jan 02, 2018 8:22:25 pm PST #1241 of 3463
The artist formerly associated with cupcakes.

The Shape of Water! I finally got to see it tonight, and was enraptured. Just wonderful.


Atropa - Jan 08, 2018 11:06:13 am PST #1242 of 3463
The artist formerly associated with cupcakes.

Golden Globes, the only two things I cared about: Get Out didn't win anything, and I am PISSED about it.

Guillermo del Toro won for best director! Eeee!


Vonnie K - Jan 08, 2018 11:37:17 am PST #1243 of 3463
Kiss me, my girl, before I'm sick.

That speech by Oprah was something. Everything else seemed to pale in comparison.

Film Twitter is alight with Three Billboard discourse, which is making me weary.


megan walker - Jan 09, 2018 12:35:06 pm PST #1244 of 3463
"What kind of magical sunshine and lollipop world do you live in? Because you need to be medicated."-SFist

Film Twitter is alight with Three Billboard discourse, which is making me weary.

My favorite part of that is the people I've seen policing others for months about not going out of your way to diss other people's faves, are now all "let me tell you why Three Billboards is the worst film ever" (insert loud sigh here).