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Steph L. - Dec 22, 2017 5:21:35 pm PST #1231 of 3463
Unusually and exceedingly peculiar and altogether quite impossible to describe

Right about the point where Luke astrally projected (with a haircut and beard trim) to fight Kylo, I leaned over to Tim and whispered "Jesus, this is long!" I'm usually not aware of movies' length, but TLJ was too long for me.


Zenkitty - Dec 22, 2017 5:46:32 pm PST #1232 of 3463
Every now and then, I think I might actually be a little odd.

Hey, if I could astral project, I'd make myself look young and skinny too.


Tom Scola - Dec 24, 2017 3:40:13 am PST #1233 of 3463
Mr. Scola’s wardrobe by Botany 500

In a movie with Oscar Isaac and John Boyega, WHY did we get Adam Driver shirtless?

I think that was a deliberate dig at Marvel. Especially with the "Put a cowl on" line.


Kalshane - Dec 27, 2017 2:39:43 pm PST #1234 of 3463
GS: If you had to choose between kicking evil in the head or the behind, which would you choose, and why? Minsc: I'm not sure I understand the question. I have two feet, do I not? You do not take a small plate when the feast of evil welcomes seconds.

Finally saw The Last Jedi. My son loved it. I thought it was good. Probably better than TFA but it hasn't displaced my love of the OT.

It did feel a little long, but not horribly so. At no point did I feel like "Why are we wasting time on this?"

I am a bit miffed at them killing off the original cast one movie at a time. Though Luke's send-off was pretty badass and him flat-out threatening to haunt Kylo if he struck him down was fantastic.

I also agree that Poe spent the whole movie being a giant fuck-up without really being called on it, other than Leia demoting him at the beginning.


Matt the Bruins fan - Dec 27, 2017 3:15:18 pm PST #1235 of 3463
"I remember when they eventually introduced that drug kingpin who murdered people and smuggled drugs inside snakes and I was like 'Finally. A normal person.'” —RahvinDragand

Well, Vice Admiral Holdo called him out as well, and Leia actually stun-blasted him during his mutiny. But it never felt like the narrative was presenting him as being in the wrong, at least until the very end when the Resistance had been whittled down to a medium-sized dinner party's worth of people. He was more the loose cannon cowboy cop who's usually proven correct to have chafed under the police chief's by-the-book restrictions.


Jessica - Dec 28, 2017 4:58:55 am PST #1236 of 3463
And then Ortus came and said "It's Ortin' time" and they all Orted off into the sunset

I disagree about Poe not being called on it. Leia demotes him, Holdo dismisses him, then he spends the next 18 hours avoiding her so he won't get caught, then Leia stuns him so he can't do any more damage. And yeah, we've all been trained to expect that guy to save the day (and he's one of our POV characters and he thinks he's right all the time), but I don't think the narrative is ever really on his side.


-t - Dec 28, 2017 5:54:39 am PST #1237 of 3463
I am a woman of various inclinations and only some of the time are they to burn everything down in frustration

Agree with Jess. We, the audience, get carried along with him as he learns that he's in the wrong because we're so conditioned to expect the loose-cannon-saves-the-day arc. It's a nifty trick.


Kalshane - Dec 28, 2017 7:57:05 am PST #1238 of 3463
GS: If you had to choose between kicking evil in the head or the behind, which would you choose, and why? Minsc: I'm not sure I understand the question. I have two feet, do I not? You do not take a small plate when the feast of evil welcomes seconds.

Poe still ends up getting a lot of people dead and doesn't really show any remorse for it, but on reflection I will agree he doesn't get a pass, either, and actually learns something by the end.

There's a bunch of griping online about Holdo not letting Poe in on the plan and that it's her fault the transports get blown up because of this, but they seem to conveniently forget that Poe kept his own plan secret from her. If keeping secrets is bad (and I agree that she didn't owe him an explanation anyway) then Poe is just as guilty.


Kalshane - Dec 28, 2017 8:04:40 am PST #1239 of 3463
GS: If you had to choose between kicking evil in the head or the behind, which would you choose, and why? Minsc: I'm not sure I understand the question. I have two feet, do I not? You do not take a small plate when the feast of evil welcomes seconds.

I will say I thought it was a great character moment that when Hux found Kylo Ren possibly dead his first thought was to blast him just to be sure (until Kylo woke up and he noped right back out of that plan.)


WindSparrow - Dec 28, 2017 8:29:17 am PST #1240 of 3463
Love is stronger than death and harder than sorrow. Those who practice it are fierce like the light of stars traveling eons to pierce the night.

All those complainers have totally bought into the narrative of the loose-cannon-saves-the-day trope and zero concept of military standards of conduct. Admirals do not explain things to insubordinate captains. In a military context, when a higher-up explains something to you it is because they believe you need that information to carry out your duties and orders OR because they are grooming you for greater leadership roles and teaching you what they know. Since Leia and Holdo had recent evidence that Poe was not meant for Greater Things and his current duties included getting off the bridge to let the grownups talk, Holdo owed him zero explanation.