Funny thing about black and white. You mix it together and you get gray. And it doesn't matter how much white you try and put back in, you're never gonna get anything but gray.

Lilah ,'Destiny'


Natter 74: Ready or Not  

Off-topic discussion. Wanna talk about corsets, duct tape, butt kicking, or physics? This is the place. Detailed discussion of any current-season TV must be whitefonted.


DavidS - Aug 27, 2015 9:35:43 am PDT #4237 of 30003
"Look, son, if it's good enough for Shirley Bassey, it's good enough for you."

I mostly brag about Emmett and Matilda because it feels a bit disloyal to air their failings. But I promise they both have generated a goodly number of hair pulling moments. Which has inspired less than ideal parenting from me involving yelling, cutting snark or deep blasts of impatience.

However, all the pictures of them goofing around and cuddling and loving each other are a true and accurate document of their relationship. So they *do* excel at sib love.

But Emmett blew off his classes so hard his second semester of senior year in HS that he almost failed to graduate and had his college acceptance rescinded. And when Matilda is not the most delightful stylista and maker of clever objects, she is the whiniest, most super sensitive, indolent, infuriatingly dawdling child that ever slow walked her way to school.


Jesse - Aug 27, 2015 9:37:51 am PDT #4238 of 30003
Sometimes I trip on how happy we could be.

The non-parenting equivalent of this is people who think I'm "always doing something fun." No. 90% of the time, I'm sitting on my sofa. You just only hear about the other 10%.


Sophia Brooks - Aug 27, 2015 9:38:04 am PDT #4239 of 30003
Cats to become a rabbit should gather immediately now here

Yes. Even in high school, I never minded getting detention because it meant I could get a lot, if not all, of my homework done and leave the books at school.

I tried to do most of mine in homeroom, lunch, or other classes so I did not have to carry the books home. That sounds bad now.

But so much of BFF's life is just trying to get her kids to do and/or turn in homework, and it seems hard.


DavidS - Aug 27, 2015 9:50:25 am PDT #4240 of 30003
"Look, son, if it's good enough for Shirley Bassey, it's good enough for you."

But so much of BFF's life is just trying to get her kids to do and/or turn in homework, and it seems hard.

Seriously the greatest thing since Pay At The Pump was Emmett's aftercare program where they made everybody do their homework for 45 minutes, so it was already done by the time I picked him up. Which also trained him to just get it done and out of the way and he kept the habit up. Before that we had so many tearful nights of math homework.

Matilda's aftercare also does homework, though it's not quite as dedicated. But she's pretty good about finishing it off when she gets home before dinner.


Zenkitty - Aug 27, 2015 9:54:26 am PDT #4241 of 30003
Every now and then, I think I might actually be a little odd.

My BFF is struggling again this year with getting her 17-year-old daughter to do her homework, and then turn the homework in once done. Also to go to bed before 11pm so she isn't groggy in the morning. Also to do any chores or even clean up after herself. The kid is bright enough, she just doesn't want to do anything but play.

As a single childless person, I am partying all the time. If we define "party" as "anything you can do on a sofa (except sex)".


DavidS - Aug 27, 2015 10:05:52 am PDT #4242 of 30003
"Look, son, if it's good enough for Shirley Bassey, it's good enough for you."

My BFF is struggling again this year with getting her 17-year-old daughter to do her homework, and then turn the homework in once done.

Just had this conversation recently with my friend Alison whose daughter is Emmett's age and struggled badly in her Freshman year of college, but failed to avail herself of writing tutors and counseling and all the things universities do now to buoy incoming students.

And we both said once they're eighteen they just own their own failures. They're making their own choices, creating their own life.


msbelle - Aug 27, 2015 10:13:59 am PDT #4243 of 30003
I remember the crazy days. 500 posts an hour. Nubmer! Natgbsb

Mac has virtually no homework. I think the schools suck.

He does the bare minimum in all school and activities.

It has been freeing to let go of hovering over all the grade stuff. If he fails he loses all electronics immediately, no discussion.

If he is not in the car on time in the mornings now I have told him I will leave without him and he will have an unexcused absence. His phone locks at 10. If he takes it into his room at night and I catch it, he loses it the next day. If he does not do what I ask when I ask he loses the computer. I have just become a hardass, but I will not get into fights about it anymore. These are the rules you follow or you lose stuff. He is actually one phone infraction away from being switched to a bare bones phone with no data.


Zenkitty - Aug 27, 2015 10:20:05 am PDT #4244 of 30003
Every now and then, I think I might actually be a little odd.

And we both said once they're eighteen they just own their own failures. They're making their own choices, creating their own life.

That's what I've said too, but this girl will be turning 18 in the middle of her junior year, in December; she got held back once already. I worry that finishing her junior year as a legal adult, she won't go back to school. She hates it and doesn't see any value in it since she doesn't want to go to college. Also, it's totally her mom's fault she's never had a job because her mom won't fill out any applications for her.


meara - Aug 27, 2015 10:22:18 am PDT #4245 of 30003

I read about friends who have these really smart kids who are self-motivated and take care of all their homework by themselves, and it's all generally correct, and parents just sit back and beam at their wonderful children's wonderful As, A+s, commendation letters, etc. Said kids are also incredibly well rounded and in addition to always getting A+s, they excell at sports, musical instruments, and volunteering with the homeless.

This is a lie. And even if it's not, they'll fall down eventually. I mean, if Instagram had been around I probably would've seemed like one of those kids, but...really wasn't very happy much of high school. Self-motivated also meant really high self expectations and feeling like I'd failed if I didn't meet them.

and I played an instrument for years (even through and after college!) but never was good at practicing--in middle school I forged my moms signature on our practice log so many times I had to keep doing it because I figured if I gave it to her after two or three forged signatures shed remember she hadn't been signing it!


msbelle - Aug 27, 2015 10:22:20 am PDT #4246 of 30003
I remember the crazy days. 500 posts an hour. Nubmer! Natgbsb

job

Oh! Next summer is the summer of get a job or go to summer school for Mac.