I'm a big girl. Just tell me.

Inara ,'Objects In Space'


Natter 74: Ready or Not  

Off-topic discussion. Wanna talk about corsets, duct tape, butt kicking, or physics? This is the place. Detailed discussion of any current-season TV must be whitefonted.


WindSparrow - Oct 18, 2016 9:21:36 am PDT #29512 of 30003
Love is stronger than death and harder than sorrow. Those who practice it are fierce like the light of stars traveling eons to pierce the night.

Gud, you deserve enough room in your life to make mistakes and take care of yourself. We are humans, not robots. And really, in your situation, although the mistakes you make may give an excuse for the ugliness of the other person's overly harsh response, if there were no mistakes, that other person would still find other excuses.


Gudanov - Oct 18, 2016 9:23:58 am PDT #29513 of 30003
Coding and Sleeping

No, it's not like that. I'm not getting any blowback from what I'm cooking, it was a miscommunication. I mentioned to my wife that I was making chili last night. She has class that night and gets home about 8:30pm or so. (Complicated by the fact that I go pick up our daughter from a college class at that time.) I apparently gave her the impression that I was going to have something for her for dinner when she got home (aside from leftover chili), so she was understandably upset when I didn't have anything. We didn't discuss what I was going to make/get for her so I thought she was handling it herself. I should have clarified things earlier in the day. My mistake. Now she's sort of like, 'I don't expect you to ever make dinner for me again'. But that will probably blow over eventually. It's just tense in the meantime.


Jessica - Oct 18, 2016 9:27:29 am PDT #29514 of 30003
If I want to become a cloud of bats, does each bat need a separate vaccination?

(Gud, I hope all this well meaning advice doesn't come across as a pile-on. Lord knows you're under enough stress already without a bunch of us telling you you're being stressed wrong.)


juliana - Oct 18, 2016 9:29:59 am PDT #29515 of 30003
I’d be lying if I didn’t say that I miss them all tonight…

I apparently gave her the impression that I was going to have something for her for dinner when she got home (aside from leftover chili), so she was understandably upset when I didn't have anything. We didn't discuss what I was going to make/get for her so I thought she was handling it herself. I should have clarified things earlier in the day. My mistake.

No, no mistake, just a miscommunication. Those happen. If neither of you clearly stated what was going to happen, it's no one's fault. M & I have done that countless times (which has led to me overcommunicating like woah), and it's just... it happens. The other person shrugs it off & forages for dinner, and then we sit down together & figure out ways to make sure it doesn't happen again. Or more ways to shrug it off.

edit: Also, what Jessica said.


Maria - Oct 18, 2016 9:30:26 am PDT #29516 of 30003
Not so nice is that I'm about to ruin a Friday morning for a bunch of people because of a series of unfortunate events and an upset foreign government. - shrift

Gud, that is still not normal. I'm sorry, but she is engaging in incredibly emotionally abusive behavior towards you. It is not on you to clarify or give her impressions. It is up to her to say, "Hey, the leftover chili won't be enough, so I'm going to need something else. Are you taking care of that or am I?"

edit to agree with Jess and Juliana in that I hope this doesn't feel like a pile-on. We care about you, and we hate to see you being treated this way.


Gudanov - Oct 18, 2016 9:39:07 am PDT #29517 of 30003
Coding and Sleeping

I don't feel piled on. No worries. I just appreciate having a place to talk.


Steph L. - Oct 18, 2016 9:53:16 am PDT #29518 of 30003
the hardest to learn / was the least complicated

I need to avoid making any mistakes

That's literally impossible. Any relationship (including with a boss, a friend, and certainly a spouse/partner) that requires you to do the impossible is unhealthy and very damaging.

(Also not trying to pile on; just trying to give you a perspective that you are in Crazytown right now.)


Burrell - Oct 18, 2016 10:02:52 am PDT #29519 of 30003
Why did Darth Vader cross the road? To get to the Dark Side!

It sounds like a miscommunication, Gud. You're good, in more ways than one.

Coming home in time for dinner is not my DH's strong suit. He often has late afternoon/early evening meetings and I sometimes lose track of them. So now I text him an ETA for dinner and if he's not there, he gets leftovers. Ironically if I ASK him to pick up take out on the way home, he can do that no problem. But it takes forethought on my part, remembering which days he'll be home in time for dinner.


Beverly - Oct 18, 2016 10:04:16 am PDT #29520 of 30003
Days shrink and grow cold, sunlight through leaves is my song. Winter is long.

Gud, what they said. I haven't chimed in personally because the comments here are much more helpful than what I'd say.

My brain isn't typical, and while H knows it, he doesn't get it. So when I ask a question and he begins a lecture on the etymological history of a facet of what I just asked, I want to punch him. Just.Answer.My.Question. Yes, no, up, down, right, left, right assumption, wrong conclusion. Simple, declarative, full stop.

I had a laptop crisis yesterday and he's asking me what I did two weeks ago and how long it's been doing this and did I try this--"and how do I find that command?" Go here, and there, and then do this. "Wait! Go here, right?" Yes, and then and then and the other thing.

So, it takes a blowup sometimes, and tears, and a stolid stare while he gets his tangents out, and realizes he's speaking Urdu. And then we solve it.

Communication skills vary, and a lot of times they're just not compatible without a *lot* of mutual effort.

I just want to hug everybody in this thread. I've missed you, prodigals! Welcome! And hugs for the diehards, too, just 'cause.


Kat - Oct 18, 2016 10:12:02 am PDT #29521 of 30003
"I keep to a strict diet of ill-advised enthusiasm and heartfelt regret." Leigh Bardugo

I am standing in Steph's corner shaking my head.