Now, I can hold a note for a long time...actually I can hold a note forever. But eventually that's just noise. It's the change we're listening for. The note coming after, and the one after that. That's what makes it music.

Host ,'Why We Fight'


Natter 74: Ready or Not  

Off-topic discussion. Wanna talk about corsets, duct tape, butt kicking, or physics? This is the place. Detailed discussion of any current-season TV must be whitefonted.


juliana - Oct 18, 2016 9:29:59 am PDT #29515 of 30003
I’d be lying if I didn’t say that I miss them all tonight…

I apparently gave her the impression that I was going to have something for her for dinner when she got home (aside from leftover chili), so she was understandably upset when I didn't have anything. We didn't discuss what I was going to make/get for her so I thought she was handling it herself. I should have clarified things earlier in the day. My mistake.

No, no mistake, just a miscommunication. Those happen. If neither of you clearly stated what was going to happen, it's no one's fault. M & I have done that countless times (which has led to me overcommunicating like woah), and it's just... it happens. The other person shrugs it off & forages for dinner, and then we sit down together & figure out ways to make sure it doesn't happen again. Or more ways to shrug it off.

edit: Also, what Jessica said.


Maria - Oct 18, 2016 9:30:26 am PDT #29516 of 30003
Not so nice is that I'm about to ruin a Friday morning for a bunch of people because of a series of unfortunate events and an upset foreign government. - shrift

Gud, that is still not normal. I'm sorry, but she is engaging in incredibly emotionally abusive behavior towards you. It is not on you to clarify or give her impressions. It is up to her to say, "Hey, the leftover chili won't be enough, so I'm going to need something else. Are you taking care of that or am I?"

edit to agree with Jess and Juliana in that I hope this doesn't feel like a pile-on. We care about you, and we hate to see you being treated this way.


Gudanov - Oct 18, 2016 9:39:07 am PDT #29517 of 30003
Coding and Sleeping

I don't feel piled on. No worries. I just appreciate having a place to talk.


Steph L. - Oct 18, 2016 9:53:16 am PDT #29518 of 30003
the hardest to learn / was the least complicated

I need to avoid making any mistakes

That's literally impossible. Any relationship (including with a boss, a friend, and certainly a spouse/partner) that requires you to do the impossible is unhealthy and very damaging.

(Also not trying to pile on; just trying to give you a perspective that you are in Crazytown right now.)


Burrell - Oct 18, 2016 10:02:52 am PDT #29519 of 30003
Why did Darth Vader cross the road? To get to the Dark Side!

It sounds like a miscommunication, Gud. You're good, in more ways than one.

Coming home in time for dinner is not my DH's strong suit. He often has late afternoon/early evening meetings and I sometimes lose track of them. So now I text him an ETA for dinner and if he's not there, he gets leftovers. Ironically if I ASK him to pick up take out on the way home, he can do that no problem. But it takes forethought on my part, remembering which days he'll be home in time for dinner.


Beverly - Oct 18, 2016 10:04:16 am PDT #29520 of 30003
Days shrink and grow cold, sunlight through leaves is my song. Winter is long.

Gud, what they said. I haven't chimed in personally because the comments here are much more helpful than what I'd say.

My brain isn't typical, and while H knows it, he doesn't get it. So when I ask a question and he begins a lecture on the etymological history of a facet of what I just asked, I want to punch him. Just.Answer.My.Question. Yes, no, up, down, right, left, right assumption, wrong conclusion. Simple, declarative, full stop.

I had a laptop crisis yesterday and he's asking me what I did two weeks ago and how long it's been doing this and did I try this--"and how do I find that command?" Go here, and there, and then do this. "Wait! Go here, right?" Yes, and then and then and the other thing.

So, it takes a blowup sometimes, and tears, and a stolid stare while he gets his tangents out, and realizes he's speaking Urdu. And then we solve it.

Communication skills vary, and a lot of times they're just not compatible without a *lot* of mutual effort.

I just want to hug everybody in this thread. I've missed you, prodigals! Welcome! And hugs for the diehards, too, just 'cause.


Kat - Oct 18, 2016 10:12:02 am PDT #29521 of 30003
"I keep to a strict diet of ill-advised enthusiasm and heartfelt regret." Leigh Bardugo

I am standing in Steph's corner shaking my head.


Steph L. - Oct 18, 2016 10:29:15 am PDT #29522 of 30003
the hardest to learn / was the least complicated

I had a laptop crisis yesterday

Hey, we're twins! In the worst possible way! When my laptop went kablooey last night (while I was working), Tim was helpful, but not as helpful as I needed (though admittedly, I am long past the end of my rope in how much emotional support I need in a crisis; a year ago, I wouldn't have needed as much support as I did last night). He filled me full of Ativan and suggested an alternative that I didn't think about (the dreaded Windows laptop we have in a closet for the ADD group). But I needed him to just TELL me everything was going to be okay. Confidently. That's not really his M.O., and I know that, but when I lose my goddamn mind (which is happening with depressing regularity), I need him to just forcefully tell me everything will be fine, because, oh, I am POSITIVE it's the end of the world and I don't listen to reason.

It's super hard keeping the wolves from the door these days, you guys.

But yeah. Communication, DAMN. (It's gotten a lot better -- thanks, television -- now that I can just say "I am Abed, okay? Tell it to me like you would to Abed." And that totally works. Because sometimes he uses metaphor and I just need concrete language.)


-t - Oct 18, 2016 10:29:46 am PDT #29523 of 30003
I am a woman of various inclinations and only some of the time are they to burn everything down in frustration

any of us can read any number of multi-sentence emails like a boss

I want to put this on my resume. And my next self-eval.

((Gud)) I have more thoughts but we are losing internet in a minute.


Dana - Oct 18, 2016 10:34:11 am PDT #29524 of 30003
"I'm useless alone." // "We're all useless alone. It's a good thing you're not alone."

I was all keyed up to get some work done, but my coworker blew me off.