Billytea's explanation right there is part of why I heart buffistas. :)

Sophia, that's disturbing. It's like we're living in two parallel universes. If that's what conservatives are seeing when they look at the two of them, there's no chance of changing anyone's mind.

YEah- it is discouraging. This person generally has an open, logical mind, but he is using his logic illogically. Or something.

He has a point by point refutation of Clinton's ecxonmic plan, and thinks when she says "We have a different how we make investments that will actually produce jobs and rising incomes."

SHe is saying: " she opposes private investment and believes the government should absorb 100% of private entrepreneurial investment money as a tax, and then the government should determine which businesses receive that investment money.. That's literally what she's saying}

538 put up a note yesterday saying it could be two or three days before the debate is factored into their model. They wait for multiple polls to show similar findings before considering it a trend, otherwise they treat it as an outlier.

The right-wing news people keep focusing on "I don't think Hillary persuaded any Trump voters to join her camp," which I hear as "The people who think she's the devil incarnate continue to think she reigns in hell, but we won't say anything about the people who haven't decided yet, because we're very worried about that."

The right-wing news people keep focusing on "I don't think Hillary persuaded any Trump voters to join her camp," which I hear as "The people who think she's the devil incarnate continue to think she reigns in hell, but we won't say anything about the people who haven't decided yet, because we're very worried about that."

I hope the right wing has good reason to be worried about the undecideds. I get so angry when I think about third-party voters in this election that I can't think about that for too long.

Do people know you can sign up to drive people to the polls?

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Also GOTV calling can, I think, be done from your home for Hillary.

Getting dems to the polls will win the election. Voter turnout is key.

Well, in an election where I could live with either of the main candidates (like in 2008, assuming McCain's health had held up to the stress of the Presidency), I might be tempted to vote Green Party to send a message. However, the message I want to send this election is "1933 Germany should not be looked at as a how-to guide!"

Yeah, I've been thinking of volunteering to drive people once I finish relocating.

I'm voting by mail this year--hopefully, I think I signed up correctly--because I'm going to be at a new address at the beginning of November and I don't know what the time frame is for changing registration information. It may not matter in Utah, but it just might.

We've been talking about going out of state to drive people to the polls. MD is locked down pretty tight for dems but it could make a difference in one of our neighboring states.

The right wing people I know on facebook don't post any pro-Trump stuff, but they post plenty of anti-Hillary things. They really hate her. I'm hoping they're leaning toward just not voting.