But that's just my point! You she obeys! She obeys you! There's obeying going on right under my nose!

Wash ,'War Stories'


Natter 74: Ready or Not  

Off-topic discussion. Wanna talk about corsets, duct tape, butt kicking, or physics? This is the place. Detailed discussion of any current-season TV must be whitefonted.


Sue - Sep 27, 2016 12:30:56 pm PDT #28408 of 30003
hip deep in pie

I thought Canada and the U.K. were tighter on being able to work in each other's country!

Well that's the crazy thing, I was eligible to apply because I am a citizen of a Commonwealth country. You would think being eligible to apply would mean they would follow through with hiring, and sponsoring for a visa, but no. For the visa I need, they need to show there's not an UK citizen able to do the job, so I suspect there was probably a suitable runner-up.

Ironically, NAFTA means that if I got a library job, I could get a US work visa easily.


JZ - Sep 27, 2016 12:37:39 pm PDT #28409 of 30003
See? I gave everybody here an opportunity to tell me what a bad person I am and nobody did, because I fuckin' rule.

Suzi, thanks for maintaining that respectful Q&A space. Though I feel more confused than ever now!

I asked your cousin M. for his thoughts on Trump's use of Mexican and overseas factories for branded menswear, barware and furniture lines as well as the campaign trucker caps; if encouraging domestic industries and creating jobs for US workers is so important, it seems like an odd choice. Probably a sensible one in terms of the financial bottom line and profit margin, but it still seems dodgy to insist that we all need to be doing what he isn't even bothering to do himself (especially when all of Clinton's official campaign swag is US made.)

And his answer just makes me scratch my head: "It is, but as a business man, it makes sense to outsource, vs. building a factory that doesn't exist, or being taxed at over 30%. Big business is struggling in the US, and until he can take the wheel, it makes sense to outsource."

I'm not going to pursue it because he's really been super-nice and respectful (unsurprising in a person related to Suzi), but shit. If that was my candidate (especially if her opponent had made a *point* of doing the very thing she was insisting we all need to do but not doing herself), I'd be mightily P.O.'d, not shrugging and "oh, well"-ing it off.

Makes me feel like I've been trying to work out a math puzzle with someone and either one of us has just completely missed a step that's obvious to the other one, or we're actually working on two totally different puzzles and don't realize it.


JZ - Sep 27, 2016 12:39:45 pm PDT #28410 of 30003
See? I gave everybody here an opportunity to tell me what a bad person I am and nobody did, because I fuckin' rule.

Cereal: Sue, that both sucks and makes no sense at all. Boo!


SuziQ - Sep 27, 2016 12:45:08 pm PDT #28411 of 30003
Back tattoos of the mother is that you are absolutely right - Ame

M isn't my cousin, just a friend. S, who just started commenting, is married to a cousin.

Makes me feel like I've been trying to work out a math puzzle with someone and either one of us has just completely missed a step that's obvious to the other one, or we're actually working on two totally different puzzles and don't realize it.

Completely. Yes, from a purely business standpoint, outsourcing helps the bottom line. But from a business ethics and morals standpoint it is more complicated. Many, many businesses who outsourced got burned by public opinion and have since brought those jobs back. (Current area of study in my grad program).

There are many things Trump does because they aren't inherently illegal - working the tax system to pay zero taxes (assumed), outsourcing, bankruptcy, blind trusts - but says that once he is president he will make many of those illegal or create incentives for the opposite actions or something "huge, great, terrific".


WindSparrow - Sep 27, 2016 1:04:48 pm PDT #28412 of 30003
Love is stronger than death and harder than sorrow. Those who practice it are fierce like the light of stars traveling eons to pierce the night.

Dana, that skirt is calling your name. It wants to come home to you.

Toddson, I need someone to have THAT skirt.


Sheryl - Sep 27, 2016 1:10:57 pm PDT #28413 of 30003
Fandom means never having to say "But where would I wear that?"

Timelies all!

Went to dance practice last night(it was my turn). Not that I was going to watch the debate if I was home, but I was out.

We do the vast majority of our grocery shopping at a Safeway that's a couple of miles away. It usually has a good selection of the things we need. Occasionally I'll stop at a Giant that's near my work, but only for non-perishables, as I go to pick up the little guy from daycare afterwards.


Dana - Sep 27, 2016 1:15:17 pm PDT #28414 of 30003
I'm terrifically busy with my ennui.

Toddson, I need someone to have THAT skirt.

There's someone who wears that skirt, or a similar one, to the dance party at Vividcon every year. It's pretty delightful.

As someone who firmly believes that the government should NOT be run like a business (and further, that capitalism is kind of evil), I do at least understand why someone who holds the opposite belief doesn't agree with me. I think they're wrong, but at least I get where they're coming from.

Thinking Trump is a good businessman, on the other hand...


Jesse - Sep 27, 2016 1:30:27 pm PDT #28415 of 30003
Sometimes I trip on how happy we could be.

As someone who firmly believes that the government should NOT be run like a business (and further, that capitalism is kind of evil), I do at least understand why someone who holds the opposite belief doesn't agree with me. I think they're wrong, but at least I get where they're coming from.

Thinking Trump is a good businessman, on the other hand...

Agreed.


Dana - Sep 27, 2016 1:36:03 pm PDT #28416 of 30003
I'm terrifically busy with my ennui.

While I was driving home, Half.com called in response to a support request I'd sent in. They agreed to call back in an hour. It's now been an hour and a half.

I'm never going to hear from them again, am I.


Laura - Sep 27, 2016 2:29:03 pm PDT #28417 of 30003
Our wings are not tired.

So I was delighted to meet Olympian Carl Lewis. He came by a tiny Clinton headquarters in the hood to talk to maybe a dozen volunteers. He had a very interesting life story about his parents involvement in civil rights and his long relationship with Hillary. He apparently is traveling all over the country giving pep talks to volunteers and doing other things for the campaign. That level of organization by Clinton gives me hope.