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SuziQ - Sep 07, 2016 8:57:16 am PDT #27188 of 30003
Back tattoos of the mother is that you are absolutely right - Ame

You'll get paid, right, but at regular time rate?

Nope. I get paid straight time for OT. But when there is a holiday in the pay period, it counts against the OT. I have complained to Corporate cause I had this happen with the 4th of July. So I just plain lose 8 hours of pay. I hates it. It is wrong like a wrong thing that is wrong. But I don't know what I can do about it.


Sophia Brooks - Sep 07, 2016 8:57:51 am PDT #27189 of 30003
Cats to become a rabbit should gather immediately now here

Oh- and I end up at least answering some emails on my vacation because I am the only person who can register non-credit students. There is also only one person who can register credit bearing students, but we work in different departments so we are not cross trained to cover each other. We both try to take vacations during low volume times, but if there are registrations that need to be process immediately (like the class is about to start) we do it from home on our vacations. I have no idea how that will work once I move from exempt to non-exempt with the new federal regulations.


Sophia Brooks - Sep 07, 2016 8:59:00 am PDT #27190 of 30003
Cats to become a rabbit should gather immediately now here

Suzi- are you exempt, but paid hourly, or non-exempt? Because if you are non-exempt, I suspect that is against federal wage and salary regulations. You could ask www.askamanager.com


Jesse - Sep 07, 2016 9:03:37 am PDT #27191 of 30003
Sometimes I trip on how happy we could be.

The fact that I am exempt and would never get overtime does make me a lot more cavalier about these things. Added to the part where we can't roll over any leave time at all, and I really DGAF. I spent a significant amount of time working on my day off? I'm not charging it as a day off!

So, speaking of work, I'm doing a great job of talking myself out of applying for anything. But it's hard! Everything is awkward when you don't even have a cube at work, so I'm trying to only apply for things I really want. And most of the jobs in my field around here are at hospitals and universities, and I don't think I want that. I mean, I'm worked at two medium-large places now, and the bureaucracy is more than I want to deal with, so do I actually want to get into an actual bureaucracy?? But then on the flip side, small places don't pay enough, even if they are looking for someone like me (which mostly they aren't.) It is a dilemma!


lisah - Sep 07, 2016 9:14:51 am PDT #27192 of 30003
Punishingly Intricate

You are right, suzi, that is very wrong!!


flea - Sep 07, 2016 9:17:56 am PDT #27193 of 30003
information libertarian

Jesse, if you'd like to talk about university bureaucracies, I am sure my sister would be happy to talk to you. She works in Cambridge but has applied for and interviewed at other places, and seems to have a good handle on administrative cultures overall.


Jesse - Sep 07, 2016 9:32:13 am PDT #27194 of 30003
Sometimes I trip on how happy we could be.

Yeah, you know, that's a good idea. I think the different schools are pretty different, but I could start getting a big-picture idea.

Relatedly, I just heard from my neighbor that the students are back and "they ruin everything!" He works at Harvard.


SuziQ - Sep 07, 2016 9:42:20 am PDT #27195 of 30003
Back tattoos of the mother is that you are absolutely right - Ame

I'm non-exempt. I will check out askamanager.


brenda m - Sep 07, 2016 9:52:09 am PDT #27196 of 30003
If you're going through hell/keep on going/don't slow down/keep your fear from showing/you might be gone/'fore the devil even knows you're there

Yeah, Suzi, that does not sound legit. For one thing, OT is only calculated on a bi-weekly basis for specific professions suck as nurses. (And if in some way they have found a legit avenue to do this, they're still screwing you in a way that is not the norm.$


Zenkitty - Sep 07, 2016 10:01:21 am PDT #27197 of 30003
Every now and then, I think I might actually be a little odd.

Yeah, I understand occasionally working while on vacation but I don't get this. Why not say you won't be available, set up your OOO message, and just not look at your work email?

Because when I go without checking in to work for a few days, I come back to a mountain of work, much of it left undone by the person who was supposed to be taking care of it, and/or I come back to a mess of errors and upset authors. I always feel like disappearing is not worth the mess I come back to.

"But . . . you're getting overtime," says the puzzled supervisor when you complain about staying late and having to work through lunch for two weeks straight, and your name gets put down on the list of Suspected of Not Being a Team Player.

My current manager is baffled by me preferring more personal time to extra money. He doesn't understand why anyone would not want to grab every dollar they can get. Like, sure, I like money, but I make enough; I don't need to be working every moment I'm awake.

I wish I could, but it's not done in this industry. I have a lot of scheduling flexibility, so I can go to the gym in the middle of the day, or spend a few days visiting a friend, as long as the work is getting done. I was sick for most of the two weeks prior to Labor Day, and I basically handled what was important in between sleeping 12 hours a day, and I didn't take sick days. Where they go apeshit is in these situations.

I echo this. I greatly enjoy working from home and having flexibility in my schedule, but I get work coming in 24/7 and if I don't stay on top of it constantly, it quickly builds up to more than I can do in 8 hours.

I am going to be changing my own behavior though, about putting the work phone on DND after working hours and on weekends. I need to be better about not checking it after I'm done for the day.

I keep saying I'm going to do this, but I'm really bad at it; when I get anxious about work I want to take care of things immediately.

Working on vacation days while still getting those hours counted against your overall vacation time is wage theft.

Yep. But it's standard where I work. We all do it, some more than others, but I don't know anyone who doesn't work an hour or so every day they can get an internet connection.

It is difficult to use it because if I work any overtime in the pay period, I can't take PTO unless it is needed to get me to 40. So, say I worked 4 hours of OT and want to take a day off. I can only take 4 hours against my PTO balance.

I have put in 14.5 hours of OT so far but I won't get paid for 8 of that due to the holiday.

Wait, what? I have never heard of this before. Working overtime before a vacation is standard! That makes it impossible. And not getting paid for OT because of a holiday, wtf? Isn't the holiday counted as part of your normal 40-hour work week?

Maybe I just don't know how OT pay works anymore? I've been salaried since 1997 and have not been paid for OT since then. Although I've worked plenty of it.

I would be more sanguine about working more than I'm scheduled if there wasn't this underlying philosophy that bitching about it is Not Allowed.

My department also has a Cult of Positivity attitude. If one complains, one is Being Negative and one should be grateful one has this wonderful job opportunity!