Can't you ever get your mind out of the hellmouth?

Buffy ,'Touched'


Natter 74: Ready or Not  

Off-topic discussion. Wanna talk about corsets, duct tape, butt kicking, or physics? This is the place. Detailed discussion of any current-season TV must be whitefonted.


DavidS - Aug 09, 2016 7:13:16 pm PDT #25786 of 30003
"Look, son, if it's good enough for Shirley Bassey, it's good enough for you."

There's been a long standing bit of subcultural gossip about secretly or not-out transgender people. It starts back in the late fifties/early sixties when the surgery was starting to improve under a doctor in Egypt. That's where Amanda Lear had her transitional surgery (financed by Salvador Dali, by several accounts. She was in his entourage for years.) That's also when the model April Ashley was outed as being transgender (ending her career).

Anyway, once that notion took hold it was applied to just about any woman who had a strong jawline who had a veiled past. Donna Summer was probably the most famous example of a famous woman reputed to have been born a man (untrue in her case). That's the backstory on how that notion gained some currency, even though it's been falsely applied many times over.


DavidS - Aug 09, 2016 7:14:23 pm PDT #25787 of 30003
"Look, son, if it's good enough for Shirley Bassey, it's good enough for you."

April Ashley's fascinating story: [link]


meara - Aug 09, 2016 7:43:55 pm PDT #25788 of 30003

Wow, interesting, David!!

I went to a bar and was waiting for it to open with a couple friends, so we could watch the women's soccer at 3pm here. And then we got them to put the Canadian channel on and watch their commentary. Better commentary, much worse cinematography (on the games but mostly on the pre-taped segments with athletes).


flea - Aug 10, 2016 1:42:30 am PDT #25789 of 30003
information libertarian

Michele Obama may have great arms, but I defy anyone to look at her child-bearing hips and suggest she was born male.


sarameg - Aug 10, 2016 4:01:22 am PDT #25790 of 30003

FB is giving me prosthetics ads. I mean, I DO have a friend who is an amputee (and has the most amazing prosthetics, including ones specifically for skateboarding) but....


Laura - Aug 10, 2016 5:06:15 am PDT #25791 of 30003
Our wings are not tired.

Well obviously Michele was born a man, she is way too tall to be a woman. (Does double take at 6' tall son's girlfriend and SILs)

The Hillary killer of all opponents or those who insult her thing is way too wide spread. I have too many people in my life that accept every conspiracy theory as fact. I am on a kind of FB vacation because I will go off on people if I don't.


Tom Scola - Aug 10, 2016 5:27:28 am PDT #25792 of 30003
Remember that the frontier of the Rebellion is everywhere. And even the smallest act of insurrection pushes our lines forward.

Steph, I had no idea that the Hall of Justice was in Cincinnati: [link]


Steph L. - Aug 10, 2016 5:56:09 am PDT #25793 of 30003
this mess was yours / now your mess is mine

Hell yeah. The comic con has started doing photo shoots there.

Also, our failed attempt at a subway is fascinating.


Steph L. - Aug 10, 2016 6:02:18 am PDT #25794 of 30003
this mess was yours / now your mess is mine

I need affirmation on something: one of my classmates in my improv class had successful surgery for a brain tumor within the past year. I'm not sure if he's currently receiving chemo or radiation, because he didn't say, and it's none of my business.

Class is tonight and I have a cold. I should probably stay home, right? I mean, I wouldn't want to give it to anyone, but his immune system might be suppressed because of chemo meds. I don't want to miss class (although I do feel lousy), but I don't want to get anyone, but especially this fellow, sick.


Dana - Aug 10, 2016 6:10:33 am PDT #25795 of 30003
I'm terrifically busy with my ennui.

The dog we are dogsitting is snoring. So cute.

I understand your concern, Tep, but isn't it up to him to take his own precautions? If he's that immuno-supressed, would he be going out?