the meaning of gifts at Christmas were initially intended to be sacrificial. In fact, they implied the most meaningful gifts are ones that require sacrifice from the giver.
See also, O Henry's The Gift of the Magi.
But I understand. You gave up everything you had to find me. And you found me broken. It's hard for you.
River ,'Safe'
Natter 74: Ready or Not
Off-topic discussion. Wanna talk about corsets, duct tape, butt kicking, or physics? This is the place. Detailed discussion of any current-season TV must be whitefonted.
flea - Aug 02, 2016 8:09:53 am PDT #25501 of 30003
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P.M. Marc - Aug 02, 2016 8:10:33 am PDT #25502 of 30003
So come, my friends, be not afraid/We are so lightly here/It is in love that we are made; In love we disappear
George Stephanidontknowhowtospellitopolus
I love this.
I don't think I agree with that. I would concede that the thing being given up has to be a viable possibility, not just theoretical, but I can imagine giving up the possibility of something one does not actually have yet being a valid sacrifice.
Agreed. Like, say, choosing the priesthood if you're Catholic.
Gudanov - Aug 02, 2016 8:19:51 am PDT #25503 of 30003
Coding and Sleeping
Ok, over the last couple of days I've become a lot less worried about Trump being president. Not that things can't change quickly. He had really been surging since early to mid-July, but man has that changed.
Steph L. - Aug 02, 2016 8:24:14 am PDT #25504 of 30003
this mess was yours / now your mess is mine
See also, O Henry's The Gift of the Magi.
I'm so ridiculously literal that this story always bothered me because it's not equivalent. Her hair will grow back! He will not grow a new watch! (Because that would turn it into a totally different -- and MUCH COOLER -- story.)
brenda m - Aug 02, 2016 8:51:05 am PDT #25505 of 30003
If you're going through hell/keep on going/don't slow down/keep your fear from showing/you might be gone/'fore the devil even knows you're there
Same with all of the presidents and Obama's suits, while boring, are fitted better than hers.
I heard a fascinating interview recently with Obama's tailor (and that of most presidents for the past twenty years or however long. Parts of it were harrowing - he learned his trade at Auschwitz. But really, it was a very funny interview. He doesn't think a lot of Obama's fashion choices. ("Grey, navy. Grey, navy. Get a pinstripe already!")
Jesse - Aug 02, 2016 9:57:02 am PDT #25506 of 30003
Sometimes I trip on how happy we could be.
Oh, wow -- where was that, brenda? I would like to hear that.
And the Obama thing is about reducing decisions in his day, right? I laughed at that when I heard it, but I totally do similar things, just not about clothes.
Steph L. - Aug 02, 2016 10:20:04 am PDT #25507 of 30003
this mess was yours / now your mess is mine
I can't remember how early in the 2012 election I started obsessively checking 538. com, but I don't think it was this early. But boy howdy, I sure am now.
Laura - Aug 02, 2016 10:56:52 am PDT #25508 of 30003
Our wings are not tired.
Checking 538 is very satisfying. I like the NYT's even better because it lists a few sources. [link]
Connie Neil - Aug 02, 2016 10:57:28 am PDT #25509 of 30003
brillig
538 is on my favorites bar.
Steph L. - Aug 02, 2016 11:01:44 am PDT #25510 of 30003
this mess was yours / now your mess is mine
There was one poll source that I think billytea said he liked and I can't remember it. Anyone?
Fivethirtyeght's nowcast is HILARIOUS at this moment. I feel like it should be accompanied by the sad trombone sound.