Everybody plays each other. That's all anybody ever does. We play parts.

Saffron ,'Our Mrs. Reynolds'


Natter 74: Ready or Not  

Off-topic discussion. Wanna talk about corsets, duct tape, butt kicking, or physics? This is the place. Detailed discussion of any current-season TV must be whitefonted.


msbelle - Aug 02, 2016 6:34:40 am PDT #25494 of 30003
I remember the crazy days. 500 posts an hour. Nubmer! Natgbsb

My boss just asked me if I had had a chance to work on something. I have zero recollection of him ever asking me to do this, so I said no and I do not recall us discussing it. He pulls up an email string THAT I AM NOT ON and says well they've done all this so it should be easy.

I come back to my desk and do an email search, he has never emailed me about this task. Never.


Sparky1 - Aug 02, 2016 7:23:25 am PDT #25495 of 30003
Librarian Warlord

On the nature of sacrifice: I would argue that to sacrifice something you actually have to have it before giving it up. Choosing public service over a lucrative private job? Not a sacrifice, just a choice - and damn weren't you lucky to have one.

I am reading backwards today.


SuziQ - Aug 02, 2016 7:31:18 am PDT #25496 of 30003
Back tattoos of the mother is that you are absolutely right - Ame

Choosing public service over a lucrative private job? Not a sacrifice, just a choice - and damn weren't you lucky to have one.

Yes, but choosing public service also entails giving up certain things, such as your privacy, regular work hours, being able to speak your mind without second and triple checking any repercussions and so on. And as someone else mentioned, Gabby Giffords is an example of public service potentially meaning sacrificing much more.


-t - Aug 02, 2016 7:42:35 am PDT #25497 of 30003
I am a woman of various inclinations and only some of the time are they to burn everything down in frustration

Oh, that's charming, msbelle. And Tep.

Bah.

Cannot get my head in the game today. And yet the work keeps on needing to get done. Tiresome.


-t - Aug 02, 2016 7:45:24 am PDT #25498 of 30003
I am a woman of various inclinations and only some of the time are they to burn everything down in frustration

I would argue that to sacrifice something you actually have to have it before giving it up.

I don't think I agree with that. I would concede that the thing being given up has to be a viable possibility, not just theoretical, but I can imagine giving up the possibility of something one does not actually have yet being a valid sacrifice.


msbelle - Aug 02, 2016 7:48:43 am PDT #25499 of 30003
I remember the crazy days. 500 posts an hour. Nubmer! Natgbsb

I talked with a coworker and there was one verbal convo about the way we process fuel changing, but I do not process fuel and do not maintain any of the reports they referenced. They just want me to build the PO for this thing I have nothing to do with, and never thought to include me in emails concerning said PO.

Communication Geniuses.


Kat - Aug 02, 2016 8:01:13 am PDT #25500 of 30003
"I keep to a strict diet of ill-advised enthusiasm and heartfelt regret." Leigh Bardugo

Hi Cindy!

I think sacrifice possibilities is definitely still sacrifice. It reminds me of a segment on NPR where they talked about the meaning of gifts at Christmas were initially intended to be sacrificial. In fact, they implied the most meaningful gifts are ones that require sacrifice from the giver.

Relatedly, someone - I forget who - said something about Clinton's suits being boxy to hide the flack jacket underneath, and now I can't see her sartorial choices any other way.

Same with all of the presidents and Obama's suits, while boring, are fitted better than hers. Even the academic regalia that POTUS and FLOTUS wear at the commencement addresses are kevlar lined.


flea - Aug 02, 2016 8:09:53 am PDT #25501 of 30003
information libertarian

the meaning of gifts at Christmas were initially intended to be sacrificial. In fact, they implied the most meaningful gifts are ones that require sacrifice from the giver.

See also, O Henry's The Gift of the Magi.


P.M. Marc - Aug 02, 2016 8:10:33 am PDT #25502 of 30003
So come, my friends, be not afraid/We are so lightly here/It is in love that we are made; In love we disappear

George Stephanidontknowhowtospellitopolus

I love this.

I don't think I agree with that. I would concede that the thing being given up has to be a viable possibility, not just theoretical, but I can imagine giving up the possibility of something one does not actually have yet being a valid sacrifice.

Agreed. Like, say, choosing the priesthood if you're Catholic.


Gudanov - Aug 02, 2016 8:19:51 am PDT #25503 of 30003
Coding and Sleeping

Ok, over the last couple of days I've become a lot less worried about Trump being president. Not that things can't change quickly. He had really been surging since early to mid-July, but man has that changed.