Do you see any goats around? No, because I sacrificed them.

Willow ,'Showtime'


Natter 74: Ready or Not  

Off-topic discussion. Wanna talk about corsets, duct tape, butt kicking, or physics? This is the place. Detailed discussion of any current-season TV must be whitefonted.


brenda m - Aug 02, 2016 4:52:02 am PDT #25488 of 30003
If you're going through hell/keep on going/don't slow down/keep your fear from showing/you might be gone/'fore the devil even knows you're there

Jesse, I can't believe I hadn't heard about the Moral Revival. I'm sorry I missed it.

I think he's in Milwaukee soon. Maybe I'll try to get up there.

In a way it might be better, Steph (though not less frustrating) that your boss is going black and white, edited or unedited, on this? At least that way it'll jump out to the executive editor and be clearer, I would think, that she's seeing raw copy, not that you or someone in the chain just missed some things. And at least you don't have to go back to author and argue each point.

Still aggravating as fuck though.


WindSparrow - Aug 02, 2016 4:57:02 am PDT #25489 of 30003
Love is stronger than death and harder than sorrow. Those who practice it are fierce like the light of stars traveling eons to pierce the night.

Now that's a revival I could cheerfully go to meeting.

Go, executive managing editor! Eat 'em up.


Laura - Aug 02, 2016 5:26:46 am PDT #25490 of 30003
Our wings are not tired.

while still maintaining plausible professionalism. Asses.

Well, did you call them asses in a professional manner? Looking forward to the executive editor response.


Connie Neil - Aug 02, 2016 5:46:08 am PDT #25491 of 30003
brillig

I hope the executive managing editor rips it apart at issue review and they object, because no one -- and I mean NO ONE -- ever wins when they go up against the executive managing editor.

It sounds like the mid-level editors prefer to appear to authors like "I'm in your court, you shouldn't have to suffer like this, but the Exec Managing Editor is such an ungodly bitch that there's no arguing with her. But hey, I agreed with you, I'm a nice person." which is great of the mid-level editors but hell on the front line person like you, Teppy.

I get a similar thing in my work, we have strict policies about changing expiration dates, but if the customer bitches hard enough we can go to a supervisor to see if we can make an exception "just this once," and the supervisors always cave.


Sparky1 - Aug 02, 2016 5:48:14 am PDT #25492 of 30003
Librarian Warlord

Yikes, Steph. I commend you on not telling your boss she's an ass for rolling over instead of supporting the people who work for her. Where you are so obviously dong your job, she should have your back.


Steph L. - Aug 02, 2016 5:53:17 am PDT #25493 of 30003
this mess was yours / now your mess is mine

It sounds like the mid-level editors prefer to appear to authors like "I'm in your court, you shouldn't have to suffer like this, but the Exec Managing Editor is such an ungodly bitch that there's no arguing with her. But hey, I agreed with you, I'm a nice person."

To be fair to the mid-level editors, they do generally push back at least once, explaining our editorial policy (which the authors already should have known). But if the authors continue to throw a tantrum, then they just cave in.

(I genuinely don't understand why we can't reply with "Do you want to be published by the AMA or not? There are a lot of other journals that have less exacting standards than we do, and I'm sure they'd be happy to not edit you." Or, you know, at least the first question.)


msbelle - Aug 02, 2016 6:34:40 am PDT #25494 of 30003
I remember the crazy days. 500 posts an hour. Nubmer! Natgbsb

My boss just asked me if I had had a chance to work on something. I have zero recollection of him ever asking me to do this, so I said no and I do not recall us discussing it. He pulls up an email string THAT I AM NOT ON and says well they've done all this so it should be easy.

I come back to my desk and do an email search, he has never emailed me about this task. Never.


Sparky1 - Aug 02, 2016 7:23:25 am PDT #25495 of 30003
Librarian Warlord

On the nature of sacrifice: I would argue that to sacrifice something you actually have to have it before giving it up. Choosing public service over a lucrative private job? Not a sacrifice, just a choice - and damn weren't you lucky to have one.

I am reading backwards today.


SuziQ - Aug 02, 2016 7:31:18 am PDT #25496 of 30003
Back tattoos of the mother is that you are absolutely right - Ame

Choosing public service over a lucrative private job? Not a sacrifice, just a choice - and damn weren't you lucky to have one.

Yes, but choosing public service also entails giving up certain things, such as your privacy, regular work hours, being able to speak your mind without second and triple checking any repercussions and so on. And as someone else mentioned, Gabby Giffords is an example of public service potentially meaning sacrificing much more.


-t - Aug 02, 2016 7:42:35 am PDT #25497 of 30003
I am a woman of various inclinations and only some of the time are they to burn everything down in frustration

Oh, that's charming, msbelle. And Tep.

Bah.

Cannot get my head in the game today. And yet the work keeps on needing to get done. Tiresome.