Tracy: Well-- That call -- That call means you just murdered me. Mal: No, son. You murdered yourself. I just carried the bullet a while.

'The Message'


Natter 74: Ready or Not  

Off-topic discussion. Wanna talk about corsets, duct tape, butt kicking, or physics? This is the place. Detailed discussion of any current-season TV must be whitefonted.


Topic!Cindy - Aug 01, 2016 2:50:40 pm PDT #25454 of 30003
What is even happening?

LOL Dana, thank you.

erikaj, it's true that you don't always have to, but regardless, "sacrifice" means giving up something you really need (or, I suppose, want).

I think about the parable (I think it was a parable) Jesus tells in the Christian New Testament about the widow who gives her last two coins. That is a sacrifice. If I give two coins, it is (pretty weak) charity.

I think about Jesus dying once and Buffy dying twice. That's sacrifice. Not to go all Godfather II, but I renounce Trump and all his works. That said, I'm not going to (on its face) denounce the fact that he has accomplished things and that he has worked and even created/provided jobs. While those things are accomplishments and involve work, they don't (to me) seem in the neighborhood of sacrifice. YMMV.


Topic!Cindy - Aug 01, 2016 2:55:24 pm PDT #25455 of 30003
What is even happening?

Post cereal

Here is the latest from We Rate Dogs: [link]


Steph L. - Aug 01, 2016 2:57:07 pm PDT #25456 of 30003
this mess was yours / now your mess is mine

Here is the latest from We Rate Dogs: [link]

Ha! The Bill Clinton comments!


Topic!Cindy - Aug 01, 2016 3:04:53 pm PDT #25457 of 30003
What is even happening?

Right, Tep? BTW, I laughed out loud, reading about your writer who rejects editing. I loved writing for TWoP. Would do it in a hot second if the Trib would hire me when it brings back the website. My editors were nice people, but they did not edit me, and I needed editing.

I wish I'd started writing there while Sars was still aboard. My impression was she was a tough editor who made her writers better and taught them a thing. My editors basically made sure I didn't miss spell-check stuff.


Topic!Cindy - Aug 01, 2016 3:26:41 pm PDT #25458 of 30003
What is even happening?

The one time I come by when someone hasn't died, I kill the board. I'm sorry, Board.


Steph L. - Aug 01, 2016 3:35:03 pm PDT #25459 of 30003
this mess was yours / now your mess is mine

Nah, people are probably commuting, eating, watching American Ninja Warrior, or, in the case of slacker work-from-home freelance medical editors, still working.


Laura - Aug 01, 2016 3:37:04 pm PDT #25460 of 30003
Our wings are not tired.

Dinner break. Sacrifice to me is more personal than working hard or financial stuff. Sacrificing a lucrative career to be in public service qualifies in my mind. Nothing Trump has done counts. Losing your child serving his country absolutely is sacrifice.


-t - Aug 01, 2016 3:40:19 pm PDT #25461 of 30003
I am a woman of various inclinations and only some of the time are they to burn everything down in frustration

Still working. But leaving now. For belly dance class, woohoo!


Topic!Cindy - Aug 01, 2016 3:44:09 pm PDT #25462 of 30003
What is even happening?

I absolutely agree about the last part, Laura. I understand what you mean about the lucrative career vis a vis public service, but since none of (as far as I know) those people end up on welfare, while I'm willing to admire their service (which I think is another, separate thing) in my own head, it doesn't qualify as sacrifice (usually, that is, I'm sure you could provide me cases to which I'd say, "Yep, sacrifice.")

Look at my pretty Teppy, giving me pity. It's okay, Steph, I know when I'm guilty of board-killage. Anyhow, Buffistas, I think about you all the time, but I'm largely trying to live an off-line life, these days, for other reasons. I hope you're all well. You are always in my thoughts.


Topic!Cindy - Aug 01, 2016 3:45:03 pm PDT #25463 of 30003
What is even happening?

t! I hope all is well with you. Do you still have your bees?