They're doing it backwards; walking up the down slide.

River ,'Ariel'


Natter 74: Ready or Not  

Off-topic discussion. Wanna talk about corsets, duct tape, butt kicking, or physics? This is the place. Detailed discussion of any current-season TV must be whitefonted.


Steph L. - Jul 06, 2016 8:45:51 am PDT #24113 of 30003
this mess was yours / now your mess is mine

Steph, I think that the next thing to say to Middle Brother is a reminder that coercion is abuse and that if somehow he carries this much further, a report will be made. You are in Hamilton County, correct?

When we talked to Middle Brother on the phone last night he did say "Well...I won't FORCE Dad into the car or anything." Like what he's currently doing is better than physical force.

(But I don't think either Tim or Oldest Brother would be okay with reporting Middle Brother. That's something that would have to be up to them.)


Steph L. - Jul 06, 2016 8:58:04 am PDT #24114 of 30003
this mess was yours / now your mess is mine

And in OTHER icky news, Trump is appearing at a rally in a northern suburb of Cincinnati this evening...with Newt Goddamn Gingrich.

The news is hilarious right now, because there's a private fundraising event with Trump before the rally -- and NO ONE will admit they're going. One of the news stations contacted over 30 GOP elected officials and/or donors and/or candidates, and NO ONE will admit they're going to the fundraiser. They either declined to comment or said they were going to be out of town. This led to this cartoon: [link]


Dana - Jul 06, 2016 9:14:46 am PDT #24115 of 30003
I'm terrifically busy with my ennui.

In almost entirely petty news, Renee Elise Goldsberry and Daveed Diggs renewed their Hamilton contracts. I'm pretty sure they did that as a favor JUST FOR ME.


meara - Jul 06, 2016 9:28:54 am PDT #24116 of 30003

Steph, have you asked middle brother what the stairs plan is?

Jesse, that's funny because FB reminded me that a year ago I was at a hotel in St. Louis that was ha I g a convention of Little people! I wonder if it's the same one.


Steph L. - Jul 06, 2016 9:41:30 am PDT #24117 of 30003
this mess was yours / now your mess is mine

Steph, have you asked middle brother what the stairs plan is?

I asked him a couple of months ago, and he said "Well, I figure we get him up the steps [HOW?!?!?!?] and then maybe he can just go for an outing maybe every other day." (Which means he'd have to go down 3 flights of stairs and then back UP 3 flights of stairs when the outing is over.)

He is 100% ignoring the fact that his father is *incredibly* unsteady on flat ground (but refuses to use a cane or other mobility aid) and cannot go up or down more than 2 steps. He absolutely KNOWS this about his father, and yet he's determined that 3 flights of stairs will be no problem.


Toddson - Jul 06, 2016 9:49:24 am PDT #24118 of 30003
Friends don't let friends read "Atlas Shrugged"

De nile ain't just a river in Egypt.


Connie Neil - Jul 06, 2016 9:57:26 am PDT #24119 of 30003
brillig

I so hate the phrase "We'll figure something out".


Steph L. - Jul 06, 2016 10:03:17 am PDT #24120 of 30003
this mess was yours / now your mess is mine

I so hate the phrase "We'll figure something out".

Ugh. I can't believe Middle Brother is continuing to push. It's unreasonable. Literally, lacking reason.


SuziQ - Jul 06, 2016 10:22:16 am PDT #24121 of 30003
Back tattoos of the mother is that you are absolutely right - Ame

The news is hilarious right now, because there's a private fundraising event with Trump before the rally -- and NO ONE will admit they're going.

I mentioned it elsewhere, but in our 4th of July parade, the county Republican contingent had signs for everyone BUT Trump. Colorado is still pretty purple with the Right very vocally upset about the shift. I just found it completely humorous that while they were stumping for every possible Republican candidate, there wasn't a shirt, sign, or button for the presumed presidential candidate.

Middle Brother will wake up, hopefully tonight when he tries to pack up Dad.


Kat - Jul 06, 2016 10:25:06 am PDT #24122 of 30003
"I keep to a strict diet of ill-advised enthusiasm and heartfelt regret." Leigh Bardugo

It's unreasonable. Literally, lacking reason.

It definitely seems to be true that this basis of what he wants is not reason-based, so I guess it must be emotional. Like he wants his dad to go for some greater purpose that has to do with the emotions of the situation.

Given that, any reasons you give aren't going to convince him, but trying to figure out what's the emotion at the bottom of whatever this is might be more successful?