These girls have the most beautiful dresses. And so do I -- how about that?

Kaylee ,'Shindig'


Natter 74: Ready or Not  

Off-topic discussion. Wanna talk about corsets, duct tape, butt kicking, or physics? This is the place. Detailed discussion of any current-season TV must be whitefonted.


meara - Jul 06, 2016 9:28:54 am PDT #24116 of 30003

Steph, have you asked middle brother what the stairs plan is?

Jesse, that's funny because FB reminded me that a year ago I was at a hotel in St. Louis that was ha I g a convention of Little people! I wonder if it's the same one.


Steph L. - Jul 06, 2016 9:41:30 am PDT #24117 of 30003
this mess was yours / now your mess is mine

Steph, have you asked middle brother what the stairs plan is?

I asked him a couple of months ago, and he said "Well, I figure we get him up the steps [HOW?!?!?!?] and then maybe he can just go for an outing maybe every other day." (Which means he'd have to go down 3 flights of stairs and then back UP 3 flights of stairs when the outing is over.)

He is 100% ignoring the fact that his father is *incredibly* unsteady on flat ground (but refuses to use a cane or other mobility aid) and cannot go up or down more than 2 steps. He absolutely KNOWS this about his father, and yet he's determined that 3 flights of stairs will be no problem.


Toddson - Jul 06, 2016 9:49:24 am PDT #24118 of 30003
Friends don't let friends read "Atlas Shrugged"

De nile ain't just a river in Egypt.


Connie Neil - Jul 06, 2016 9:57:26 am PDT #24119 of 30003
brillig

I so hate the phrase "We'll figure something out".


Steph L. - Jul 06, 2016 10:03:17 am PDT #24120 of 30003
this mess was yours / now your mess is mine

I so hate the phrase "We'll figure something out".

Ugh. I can't believe Middle Brother is continuing to push. It's unreasonable. Literally, lacking reason.


SuziQ - Jul 06, 2016 10:22:16 am PDT #24121 of 30003
Back tattoos of the mother is that you are absolutely right - Ame

The news is hilarious right now, because there's a private fundraising event with Trump before the rally -- and NO ONE will admit they're going.

I mentioned it elsewhere, but in our 4th of July parade, the county Republican contingent had signs for everyone BUT Trump. Colorado is still pretty purple with the Right very vocally upset about the shift. I just found it completely humorous that while they were stumping for every possible Republican candidate, there wasn't a shirt, sign, or button for the presumed presidential candidate.

Middle Brother will wake up, hopefully tonight when he tries to pack up Dad.


Kat - Jul 06, 2016 10:25:06 am PDT #24122 of 30003
"I keep to a strict diet of ill-advised enthusiasm and heartfelt regret." Leigh Bardugo

It's unreasonable. Literally, lacking reason.

It definitely seems to be true that this basis of what he wants is not reason-based, so I guess it must be emotional. Like he wants his dad to go for some greater purpose that has to do with the emotions of the situation.

Given that, any reasons you give aren't going to convince him, but trying to figure out what's the emotion at the bottom of whatever this is might be more successful?


Kat - Jul 06, 2016 10:27:40 am PDT #24123 of 30003
"I keep to a strict diet of ill-advised enthusiasm and heartfelt regret." Leigh Bardugo

Like, does he want his father there because he feels like this is the last family vacation that Dad might be able to participate in? Instead of forcing the poor man to go to North Carolina, is there a way he can participate in the vacation without going? Like skype? Periscope? Facetime?


Steph L. - Jul 06, 2016 10:30:34 am PDT #24124 of 30003
this mess was yours / now your mess is mine

trying to figure out what's the emotion at the bottom of whatever this is might be more successful?

Well, we have to get their dad into assisted living ideally within the next 6 months. I think Middle Brother is just really fixated on the idea that this would be One Last Trip To The Beach Like Always (never mind the fact that people in assisted living take vacations all the time, and if he were in assisted living, he might be able to avail himself of physical therapy and/or exercise classes so he would be steadier on his feet and much more able to go to the beach, say, NEXT year).

Tim's family is super non-confrontational, so no one will actually SAY "Middle Brother, what's happening with Dad is sad, but you need to let this crusade go, for the following reasons..."

Basically, I'm just holding on to the idea that Tim's dad is exceptionally stubborn and won't go. (I actually think that when Middle Brother shows up today and cheerfully announces "I'm going to pack your suitcase!", their dad will tell him to GTFO.)


Steph L. - Jul 06, 2016 10:33:03 am PDT #24125 of 30003
this mess was yours / now your mess is mine

Instead of forcing the poor man to go to North Carolina, is there a way he can participate in the vacation without going? Like skype? Periscope? Facetime?

We even arranged at least one Skype session, because Oldest Brother can't go, but all his kids and grandkids will be there, so Oldest Brother wants to Skype with his kids and grandkids at the beach. And Oldest Brother is more than happy to take his laptop to their dad's house so he can be in on the Skype session.

NONE of this is making a dent in Middle Brother's obsession with getting their dad to the beach. (His wife is a no-nonsense straight shooter who never ever hesitates to call people on their bullshit, so I'm assuming she told him that she thinks this is ridiculous and he still decided that this is the hill he's going to die on.)